Zoran

> Alextse2,
>
> You wrote â�?�?I use Oracle productsâ�?. A user is an employee who
> uses Information System products (components) in order to do
> his/her job, like a data entry or similar. I do not use MS Exchange
> server, I configure, monitor and administer it for my users. That
> is what I meant.
>
> The whole immigration procedure is rather vague and tricky. That��?s
> why it is difficult to tell if someone is eligible for MODL points or
> anything else. I got my CO last week and she told me that I am not
> qualified for â�?�?Community Languages bonus pointsâ�? because I have no
> degree for which classes were held in that language. But I am a native
> speaker, and according to their rules, a foreign student who studied
> something for 3 years in my mother tongue and gained a degree is
> qualified, but I am not?! Also, I do have informal education that is
> equal to 3-yaer degree (probably even higher) which was confirmed by
> ACS, but obviously they do not count it in this case. Now they offered
> me to go for a NAATI test that is designed for professional
> translators, which I am not, or to go to the pool with 115 points.
> BTW, NAATI brings 60 points itself, plus 5 bonus points?! Weird, but
> what can we do.
>
> A good thing is that Network Security admin appeared on MODL and now I
> could go for reassessment with ACS and claim bonus points for it.
>
> I also did not know that MCSE is counted as a degree by ACS so I paid
> the RPL processing price, had to fill out an RPL form for skills
> matching and write 2 project reports, which took me days and a lot of
> nerves. They have never told me that I did not need to do that. They
> just sent me a positive report. I realized this several months later
> reading posts on Au immi forums.
> In your case I would say that if you do not ask for MODL recognition,
> than they won��?t give you one.
>
> Computing Professional is a general term and, if you work in IT, then
> you are CP. Here is an old definition of it http://tinyurl.com/ycc65c
> , but I believe it is still correct, apart from years of relevant
> experience, which is now 6 for the â�?�?orâ�? option.
> The second part of these titles is what matters for MODL.
>
> You can see from these posts that in order to be recognized as one of
> the MODL professionals, you need to have work experience in one of the
> listed professions.
> http://tinyurl.com/yk6mm9
> http://tinyurl.com/y9hnuw
> http://tinyurl.com/ycz557
>
> So, this is how I see it:
> If you have a degree in IT and 4+ years experience in IT, then you
> should be recognized as some kind of Computer Professional. Which one,
> depends on what have you been working on. I believe, you should go as
> a developer (Computing Professionals ��? Applications and Analyst
> Programmer 2231-17).
> This would be without going for MODL points. If you want MODL points,
> and you worked as a Java and Oracle developer/admin for at least 12
> months (I found these â�?�?12 monthsâ�? mentioned on forums only) you
> should be eligible to go for one of these:
> Computing Professional - specialising in Java - 2231-79
> Computing Professional - specialising in J2EE - 2231-79
> Computing Professional - specialising in Oracle - 2231-79
>
> Which one to choose? Probably the one for which you have the strongest
> skills and most work experience.
>
> I think you cannot go just with â�?�?skills setâ�? (the â�?�?letterâ�? is
> called â�?�?project reportâ�?), but you are not required to describe
> real projects. I had the very same problem. In my IT career (7+
> years), I have been working as a full-time admin at 4 companies whose
> businesses were not IT related. So I simply described what I did
> there, like implementation and administration of email systems,
> implementation and administration of security systems and protocols
> (software patching systems, antivirus enterprise systems, PIX
> firewalls, ISA firewalls, dot 1x protocol, IPsec), scripting,
> troubleshooting and so on. You could do the same. Explain in details
> about what you did in J2EE and Oracle, anyway their ASCO is the same
> (2231-79), write about what you did in PL/SQL and Discoverer, describe
> "coding of client/server program" and I think you would be fine.
>
>
> Wish you luck.
>
> Zoran

It looks they really moved it down to 5 years.
http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/occupations/c/computing-professional-
systems-manager-2231-11.htm

Zoran

> It looks they really moved it down to 5 years.
> http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/occupations/c/computing-professional-
> systems-manager-2231-11.htm

This should answer your â�?�?MODL questionsâ�?, and mine too. I will
probably need to send a new application to ACS, including all documents
and forms.
http://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm?action=show&conID=modl