WebMasteh

Tam wrote:
    > On 23/2/04 21:51, in article gyu_b.369$,
    > "WebCrawler" <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Even in the best of hospitals people in the emergency room are made to wait
    >>for several hours before a doctor visits them.
    >
    >
    > It can be quite cynical. By making you wait until after midnight they
    > collect another day's charges. My mother was not allowed to die until after
    > midnight (i.e., they wouldn't declare her dead until then) so they collected
    > another day's fees.
    >
    > It didn't seem to embarrass them that her grandson, a brain surgeon, was
    > sitting by her and was quite aware she had died. He was not on staff at that
    > hospital and was not authorised to make the decision, least of all on a
    > relative.
    > =======================

This is "The Root of All Evil", a place of healing and economic greed.
When it
comes to the mental image of a hospital using the death of a persons
mother not declaring her
dead till the following day is insanely heartless, only so they can cash
in more money.
Perhaps Hospitals are the whores of greed we often times ignore with
exception in this
situation, so very sad. Blood Money! [END].

Shawn McGarvey

WebMasteh

ocean_surfer2000 wrote:
    > Canada has 9% unemployement rate with high taxes and low salaries.
    > Not to mention 26 week wait times for surgeries on taxpayer funded
    > "health care system"
    > If you wanna be a loser rest of your life, good luck!
    > ============================================

You are a silly person, or a silly cowboy, or a silly cowboy-person,
or just not that knowledged of who your neighbors are and they are
a kind people, a beautiful country, and a wonderful history. The best of
neighbors I say, hugzz....[END].

Shawn McGarvey

WebMasteh

watcher wrote:
    > Another rumors spread by misinformed idiots.
    >
    > Facts are:
    >
    > - Canadian taxes are lower than in 10 most taxed US states, although
    > they are higher than in 10 least taxed US states.
    >
    > - Cost of living is much lower in Canada compared to similar locations
    > in US, thus "lower" salaries are usually providing for higher life
    > style than in US
    >
    > - Such long wait is only for elective surgeries, something that
    > doesn't need to be done unless patient really wants it for some
    > reason. All necessary and emergency surgeries are done without any
    > wait.
    >
    > Another freaking "American" wannabe who have no idea about reality.
    >
    >
    > On 23 Feb 2004 11:43:34 -0800,
    > (ocean_surfer2000) wrote:
    >
    > ================================================== ====

This is so very interesting.
thanks.

Shawn

WebMasteh

iaink wrote:

    > Or you can stay in the USA with a power mad megalomaniac at
    > the wheel of a country with probably the highest gun related death rate
    > in the world, with a second class education system, and healthcare only
    > for those who can afford it.
    >
    > Hmmm, glad its not a choice I have to
    > make. BTW you are not "the helper" back in a new guise are you?
    >
    > For
    > the record the unemployment rate is ~7.5%, but this does not take into
    > account differences in the way the rate is calculated. If done the US
    > way, this is nearer to 7%, plus the US does not count the vast numbers
    > of disenfranchised welfare recipients who fall out of the system every
    > year.
    >
    > Iain
>================================================= ======

What? Are you talking about our beloved monkey face boy? The town ideiot
that became president, how dare thee! :)

Shawn

Ocean_surfer2000

It sounds like so-called "free" health care system is not working.
If so, why are the billions of taxpayers dollars are being wasted on a
system that does not work?


"WebCrawler" <> wrote in message news:<aLH_b.34843$>...
    > My condolences on your mother's passing away.
    >
    > Indeed it is shameful the way patients are treated.
    > And then they have the cheek to spread the myth that privatised health care
    > is the best way to go !
    > The US health care system is a great example of how *not* to run health care
    > in a free, democratic country.
    >
    > "Tam" <> wrote in message
    > news:BC60CE15.E2F2%...
    > > On 23/2/04 21:51, in article gyu_b.369$,
    > > "WebCrawler" <> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Even in the best of hospitals people in the emergency room are made to
    > wait
    > > > for several hours before a doctor visits them.
    > >
    > > It can be quite cynical. By making you wait until after midnight they
    > > collect another day's charges. My mother was not allowed to die until
    > after
    > > midnight (i.e., they wouldn't declare her dead until then) so they
    > collected
    > > another day's fees.
    > >
    > > It didn't seem to embarrass them that her grandson, a brain surgeon, was
    > > sitting by her and was quite aware she had died. He was not on staff at
    > that
    > > hospital and was not authorised to make the decision, least of all on a
    > > relative.
    > >

Ocean_surfer2000

It sounds like so-called "free" health care system is not working.
If so, why are the billions of taxpayers dollars are being wasted on a
system that does not work?


"WebCrawler" <> wrote in message news:<aLH_b.34843$>...
    > My condolences on your mother's passing away.
    >
    > Indeed it is shameful the way patients are treated.
    > And then they have the cheek to spread the myth that privatised health care
    > is the best way to go !
    > The US health care system is a great example of how *not* to run health care
    > in a free, democratic country.
    >
    > "Tam" <> wrote in message
    > news:BC60CE15.E2F2%...
    > > On 23/2/04 21:51, in article gyu_b.369$,
    > > "WebCrawler" <> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Even in the best of hospitals people in the emergency room are made to
    > wait
    > > > for several hours before a doctor visits them.
    > >
    > > It can be quite cynical. By making you wait until after midnight they
    > > collect another day's charges. My mother was not allowed to die until
    > after
    > > midnight (i.e., they wouldn't declare her dead until then) so they
    > collected
    > > another day's fees.
    > >
    > > It didn't seem to embarrass them that her grandson, a brain surgeon, was
    > > sitting by her and was quite aware she had died. He was not on staff at
    > that
    > > hospital and was not authorised to make the decision, least of all on a
    > > relative.
    > >

Ocean_surfer2000

It sounds like so-called "free" health care system is not working.
If so, why are the billions of taxpayers dollars are being wasted on a
system that does not work?


"WebCrawler" <> wrote in message news:<aLH_b.34843$>...
    > My condolences on your mother's passing away.
    >
    > Indeed it is shameful the way patients are treated.
    > And then they have the cheek to spread the myth that privatised health care
    > is the best way to go !
    > The US health care system is a great example of how *not* to run health care
    > in a free, democratic country.
    >
    > "Tam" <> wrote in message
    > news:BC60CE15.E2F2%...
    > > On 23/2/04 21:51, in article gyu_b.369$,
    > > "WebCrawler" <> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Even in the best of hospitals people in the emergency room are made to
    > wait
    > > > for several hours before a doctor visits them.
    > >
    > > It can be quite cynical. By making you wait until after midnight they
    > > collect another day's charges. My mother was not allowed to die until
    > after
    > > midnight (i.e., they wouldn't declare her dead until then) so they
    > collected
    > > another day's fees.
    > >
    > > It didn't seem to embarrass them that her grandson, a brain surgeon, was
    > > sitting by her and was quite aware she had died. He was not on staff at
    > that
    > > hospital and was not authorised to make the decision, least of all on a
    > > relative.
    > >

Iaink

Originally posted by Ocean_surfer2000
    > It sounds like
so-called "free" health care system is not working.
    > If so, why are
the billions of taxpayers dollars are being wasted on a
    > system that
does not work?
    >
    >

You ARE the helper! I thought so. You
couldnt be bothered to read all the posts eh? The post you are
commenting on, saying the system doesnt work was actually a comment on
the US system.

Welcome back. No need to post the same thing three
times though.

Iain

Robert

<snip>
    > You ARE the helper! I thought so. You
    > couldnt be bothered to read all the posts eh? The post you are
    > commenting on, saying the system doesnt work was actually a comment on
    > the US system.
    > Welcome back. No need to post the same thing three
    > times though.
    > Iain
Wouldn't worry Ian I think dribbling over his keyboard has stuck some of
the keys down <G>

WebCrawler

"iaink" <member16059@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:...
    > You ARE the helper! I thought so. You
    > couldnt be bothered to read all the posts eh? The post you are
    > commenting on, saying the system doesnt work was actually a comment on
    > the US system.
    > Welcome back. No need to post the same thing three
    > times though.
    > Iain

Iain, it just proves that it is not just his brain that doesn't function
properly - his keyboard doesn't either.
Just like his ideas, they seem stuck at one particular point.