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Old 10-27-2003, 04:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
Deep Freud Moors
 
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Default US parents 'starved sons'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3219061.stm

A New Jersey couple, Vanessa and Raymond Jackson, have been charged with
aggravated assault and child endangerment after their four adopted sons,
aged nine to 19, were found severely malnourished.

Investigators said the boys were so emaciated that it was impossible to tell
their ages.

They were discovered only after neighbours spotted the eldest searching for
food in a rubbish bin in the middle of the night.
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Gee, and there were some people thinking the Muslims were cruel. Look at how
Americans treat their young.
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Old 10-27-2003, 10:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Keith Willshaw <> wrote in message
news:bnl599$b2q$1$...
    > "Deep Freud Moors" <deepfloydmars@yIaWONThBITEoYA!o.co.uk> wrote in
message
    > news:qwmnb.179$...
    > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3219061.stm
    > >
    > > Gee, and there were some people thinking the Muslims were cruel. Look at
    > how
    > > Americans treat their young.
    > Have you forgotten about the child cruelty cases in Britain ?
    > Would you like a list ?
    > Fact is some people are cruel, regardless of ethnicity, nationality
    > or religion just as some people are trolls.

How right you are...
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Reid <> wrote in message
news:...
    > Following up to Keith Willshaw
    > >That was rather my point, the OP is apparently British
    > He must be, the last sentence seemed slightly ironic. :-)

I guess when posting crap like that, apparently my nationality is important.

I've just got to change that email address. What nationality should I become
next?
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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David Horne <> wrote in message
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    > Keith Willshaw <> wrote:
    > > "Reid" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > Following up to Keith Willshaw
    > > >
    > > > >> Americans treat their young.
    > > > >
    > > > >Have you forgotten about the child cruelty cases in Britain ?
    > > >
    > > > why pick on US or UK, what country doesn't have such things?
    > > > --
    > >
    > > That was rather my point, the OP is apparently British
    > I though he just lived in the UK.

Update: The British empire no longer extends this far south.
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Keeger <> wrote in message
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    > "Deep Freud Moors" <deepfloydmars@yIaWONThBITEoYA!o.co.uk> wrote:
    > It's a tragedy and such things happen in every country on Earth.

The real tragedy is when someone from a minority does it, and some pathetic
correlation-must-show-causation is drawn up.

    > But you have managed to distinguish yourself as a gutless Troll.

And you have managed to distinguish yourself as oblivious to what a troll
actually is.
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Old 10-28-2003, 02:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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    > Well, Keith, it WAS a genuine news story, here in the U.S. (even made it
    > as far as California, which is on the opposite coast). I think DFM's
    > point was that you cannot generalize about an entire people from a
    > single, isolated example.

Absolutely correct. Sometimes it's necessary to drive a point home with a
ludicrous example. The mere suggestion that this was indicative of all
Americans is so preposterous that no-one would ever believe it. Still, some
people find no problem in believing that the overwhelming majority of
Muslims are evil because their faith tells them to be.

Never underestimate the power of ignorance and fear. Combine this with some
good old propaganda, scapegoating, and the inability to see an obvious cause
and effect, and the picture become so blurry that all commonsense vanishes.

    > (Also he's a regular poster here, who
    > contributes some interesting observations - I don't think it's fair to
    > call him a "troll".)

Shit-stirrer / troublemaker might be a bit more accurate. )
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Old 10-28-2003, 02:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <"evgmsop-no spam"@earthlink.net> wrote in
message news:...
    > Alan Pollock wrote:
    > >
    > > The original poster likely intended nobody to take it at face value,
    > Why not, when it was a genuine news story, which even hit the media
    > outlets here in Los Angeles?
    > hence the
    > > value of throwing it back, especially when very often the same kinds of
    > > criticisms from the same poster are in dead earnest.
    > Did EVERYONE else miss the point he was making? That you cannot
    > legitimately apply a single negative label to an entire culture? (Why
    > do you think he mentioned Muslims - whom we Americans seem to be blaming
    > for all the world's ills, these days?)

Bless you, Evelyn, bless you.
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Old 10-28-2003, 02:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Miguel Cruz <> wrote in message
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    > Deep Freud Moors <deepfloydmars@yIaWONThBITEoYA!o.co.uk> wrote:
    > > I've just got to change that email address. What nationality should I
become
    > > next?
    > You could always come to Niue. Nobody has any grudges against us, because
    > they have no idea who we are.

Done!
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Old 10-28-2003, 07:19 AM   #9 (permalink)
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"Deep Freud Moors" <deepfloydmars@yIaWONThBITEoYA!o.co.uk> wrote in message
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    > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3219061.stm

    > Gee, and there were some people thinking the Muslims were cruel. Look at
how
    > Americans treat their young.

Have you forgotten about the child cruelty cases in Britain ?

Would you like a list ?

Fact is some people are cruel, regardless of ethnicity, nationality
or religion just as some people are trolls.

Keith
 
Old 10-28-2003, 09:39 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Default Re: US parents 'starved sons'

You completely missed the point, Keith.

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