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Old 05-18-2005, 07:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
simaganji
 
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Default Urgent help for landing in Canada

Hi there,

I have immigrated to Quebec-Canada and I am supposed to land in Canada
in a month and I need to book the ticket to Canada now.

My freinds who lived in Quebec before,moved to Toronto now,and since I
don't have any freind and relative in Quebec,they advise me to land in
Toronto,where I have some freinds and they could assist me to settele
and find a job in the new country.

Since I indicated Montreal as my arrival city ,does it make me some
problem to fly directly to Toronto and land there instead of Montreal?

It would be highly appriciated if you could kindly advise me in due
according to your information or related experience.

Thank you very much in advance,

Evanjelin
 

Old 05-18-2005, 12:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
Ms. Anderson Consultant
 
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Default Re: Urgent help for landing in Canada

Good Morning,

You can land in Toronto instead of Montreal, not a problem.

Have a Nice Day!!
 
Old 05-18-2005, 02:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
Andrew Miller
 
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Default Re: Urgent help for landing in Canada

If you applied through Quebec program then you must settle in Quebec or face
consequences (your PR status may be revoked). You have signed declaration of
intention to settle permanently in Quebec when applying and it was one of
conditions under which you were granted CSQ and subsequently PR visa. This
signed declaration may be used against you to revoke your PR status if you
won't make a serious effort to settle and live permanently in Quebec, before
moving to another Province.

As for landing - with CSQ you should land in Quebec, unless travel
arrangements force you to land in other Province on your way to Quebec. In
such case you must have evidence (tickets) of continuous travel to your
destination in Quebec immediately after landing.
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<> wrote in message
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    > Hi there,
    > I have immigrated to Quebec-Canada and I am supposed to land in Canada
    > in a month and I need to book the ticket to Canada now.
    > My freinds who lived in Quebec before,moved to Toronto now,and since I
    > don't have any freind and relative in Quebec,they advise me to land in
    > Toronto,where I have some freinds and they could assist me to settele
    > and find a job in the new country.
    > Since I indicated Montreal as my arrival city ,does it make me some
    > problem to fly directly to Toronto and land there instead of Montreal?
    > It would be highly appriciated if you could kindly advise me in due
    > according to your information or related experience.
    > Thank you very much in advance,
    > Evanjelin
    >
 
Old 05-18-2005, 03:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
Ms. Anderson Consultant
 
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Default Re: Urgent help for landing in Canada

Good Day,

You can land and settle in Toronto, there is no problem.

Granted you were accepted by Quebec but if you should change your mind
and land in Toronto there are no repercussions and your PR will
absolutely NOT be revoked.

I contacted a friend of mine who works for CIC after reading Mr.
Miller's reply (to see if there is something I had missed when I worked
there), he also confirmed that your PR will not be revoked.

He also told me that there have been cases where people have purposely
applied through Quebec because of the higher quota of people being
approved and once they received the visa they landed elsewhere. They
were not reported to Quebec Immigration, their permanent residence was
not revoked and their PR card was mailed to the address they provided.

Hope this helps!!!
 
Old 05-18-2005, 04:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
Andrew Miller
 
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Good luck with such advice, you will need a lot of it.
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"Ms. Anderson Consultant" <> wrote in message
news:...
    > Good Day,
    > You can land and settle in Toronto, there is no problem.
    > Granted you were accepted by Quebec but if you should change your mind
    > and land in Toronto there are no repercussions and your PR will
    > absolutely NOT be revoked.
    > I contacted a friend of mine who works for CIC after reading Mr.
    > Miller's reply (to see if there is something I had missed when I worked
    > there), he also confirmed that your PR will not be revoked.
    > He also told me that there have been cases where people have purposely
    > applied through Quebec because of the higher quota of people being
    > approved and once they received the visa they landed elsewhere. They
    > were not reported to Quebec Immigration, their permanent residence was
    > not revoked and their PR card was mailed to the address they provided.
    > Hope this helps!!!
    >
 
Old 05-18-2005, 04:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
Ms. Anderson Consultant
 
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Better than my advice.... or the different responses between myself and
Mr Miller contact the CIC Call center and pose your question to an
agent...

Mr Miller I would advise you to do the same because advising someone
that they must settle in Quebec and that their PR may be revoked can be
misleading and unnecessarily cause fear.
 
Old 05-18-2005, 05:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
Florian
 
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Default Re: Urgent help for landing in Canada

Can Jim and PMM add their comments on the matter please. This is very
important topic for me too.

Florian

On 18 May 2005 09:58:56 -0700, "Ms. Anderson Consultant"
<> wrote:

    >Better than my advice.... or the different responses between myself and
    >Mr Miller contact the CIC Call center and pose your question to an
    >agent...
    >Mr Miller I would advise you to do the same because advising someone
    >that they must settle in Quebec and that their PR may be revoked can be
    >misleading and unnecessarily cause fear.
 
Old 05-18-2005, 05:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
Andrew Miller
 
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You obviously have no experience (no offence intended) and don't know that
there are many cases reported over years (even in this group) when
immigrants faced problems after moving out of nominating Province
immediately after landing and without making any effort to settle there.
There is a reason CIC requires applicants who apply through any PNP or
Quebec program to sign a declaration that they will settle in nominating
Province. If CIC wants to enforce it they can. And poster asking such
important question should know that and not be advised not to worry.
__________________

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"Ms. Anderson Consultant" <> wrote in message
news:...
    > Better than my advice.... or the different responses between myself and
    > Mr Miller contact the CIC Call center and pose your question to an
    > agent...
    > Mr Miller I would advise you to do the same because advising someone
    > that they must settle in Quebec and that their PR may be revoked can be
    > misleading and unnecessarily cause fear.
    >
 
Old 05-18-2005, 05:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
Andrew Miller
 
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P.S.

Fact that many abuse Provincial programs in order to circumvent federal
criteria without having any intention to settle in nominating Province and
fact that many get away with it doesn't mean that "don't worry" advice is
the proper one, it isn't. Poster asking question should know that there are
possible consequences and risk involved and it is his decision to take the
risk after being fully informed about such risk. He may get lucky... or may
not.
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"Andrew Miller" <> wrote in message
news:VEKie.43$wr.30@clgrps12...
    > You obviously have no experience (no offence intended) and don't know that
    > there are many cases reported over years (even in this group) when
    > immigrants faced problems after moving out of nominating Province
    > immediately after landing and without making any effort to settle there.
    > There is a reason CIC requires applicants who apply through any PNP or
    > Quebec program to sign a declaration that they will settle in nominating
    > Province. If CIC wants to enforce it they can. And poster asking such
    > important question should know that and not be advised not to worry.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew P. Miller
    > Authorized Immigration Consultant
    > Registered member of CSIC - ID# M041188
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email:
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > For troll free, moderated forum come to:
    > http://britishexpats.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=33
    > ________________________________________________
    > "Ms. Anderson Consultant" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Better than my advice.... or the different responses between myself and
    >> Mr Miller contact the CIC Call center and pose your question to an
    >> agent...
    >> Mr Miller I would advise you to do the same because advising someone
    >> that they must settle in Quebec and that their PR may be revoked can be
    >> misleading and unnecessarily cause fear.
    >
 
Old 05-18-2005, 06:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
Ms. Anderson Consultant
 
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Mr. Miller you are absolutely right in stating that I have no
experience as a consultant and no offence taken... I have years of
experience working for CIC.

You always provide great information but telling someone that their PR
will be revoked and that they must land in Quebec is not provided
factual information. They are expected to land in Quebec but the way
you are bringing it across is like there is a tracking system and as
soon as they land elsewhere then they will get in trouble.
As for the declaration that was signed and should be honored the only
talk of anything being revoked is ... as written...

The Minister responsible for enforcing the ACT respecting immigration
to Quebecmay revoke a selection certificate issued in the basis of
false or misleading information or documents, by mistake, or if the
conditions required to issue a selection certificate no longer exists.

It says nothing about PR being revoked.

Now if I am wrong and my former colleagues are wrong in saying that it
is possible to land elsewhere can you please show me where in the Acts
and Regs it states that if you land in another province other than
Quebec (or provincial nominated provinces) that your PR status may be
revoked. If that in fact is true it is written somewhere in the law.
 
 


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