Marc Blake

Hello All,

To make sure I had the form all ready for when I needed it, I phoned
Kent Police HQ and made a request to the Data Protection department
for them to send me a Subject Access Form (which I was told by my
local station is what I required). It arrived in this mornings post.

As I'm sure you all know a lot better than I do at the moment, the
process is thrawt with pitfalls, so I'm taking no chances and just
want to make sure the form I have is the correct one. Although the
form *does* say that the "information provided will satisfy the
requirements of [...] the United States and will be sufficient for
visa applications and immigration", the address to return the form to
is Kent Police HQ, I was under the impression that the form was
supposed to be mailed to Scotland Yard. Also there is a statement in
the notes on the form which says, "If you are requesting information
from any other source within Kent Police, only one £10.00 fee is
required irrespective of the number of information systems searched".
Does this imply that only Kent's records will be checked? Won't I need
clearence from the entire UK? I realise this is probably a trival
question, but when walking the tightrope of this process, I don't want
there to be any margin for error.

Thank you for helping a complete newbie!

Best Regards,

Marc.

Sibsie

The way it works in the UK is that you apply to the Police Service who
covers the area you live in. Otherwise the poor old MPS would be
flooded with people from all over England and Wales.



It will be a PNC check which covers all of England, Wales and Scotland.
N Ireland has a different system.



Relax, you have the correct form.

Flyergirluk

Hi Marc,



This link will show you what the Police Certificate looks like:



]http://www.visajourney.com/gallery/a...olice_certifi-
cate[/url]



Best wishes



Tam

Michelle Smith

Hi there Marc

I work for the Police Force in Scotland but I know the form you have is
correct cause its the same for England. You should tick the boxes for Local
Police Check and one for the National which is Scotland Yard cause they cost
10 British pounds to get both done at the same time.

The one from Scotland Yard can take up to 40 days to arrive where as the
local Police Station you submit your form into will send out a letterheaded
Certificate which will show if you have anything on their system as will the
National one . The national cert is the one that has the 2 blue lines down
it and if you try photocopy it will come out with FRAUD written all over it.
For security reasons that's why you can't copy it !

If you are confused go to the local police station with proof of you home
address like a utility bill that has your current addy on it, that can be a
phone bill, electric bill, bank statement etc...
also take your passport or birth Certificate and then they can help you fill
it out and take photocopies of your required documents.
Good Luck it's easy stuff

Michelle & herb
NOA1 21st April 2003
NOA2 12th December 2003 ....Yeeehaaaaa! we are free from Nebraska !


"Marc Blake" <> wrote in message
news:...
    > Hello All,
    > To make sure I had the form all ready for when I needed it, I phoned
    > Kent Police HQ and made a request to the Data Protection department
    > for them to send me a Subject Access Form (which I was told by my
    > local station is what I required). It arrived in this mornings post.
    > As I'm sure you all know a lot better than I do at the moment, the
    > process is thrawt with pitfalls, so I'm taking no chances and just
    > want to make sure the form I have is the correct one. Although the
    > form *does* say that the "information provided will satisfy the
    > requirements of [...] the United States and will be sufficient for
    > visa applications and immigration", the address to return the form to
    > is Kent Police HQ, I was under the impression that the form was
    > supposed to be mailed to Scotland Yard. Also there is a statement in
    > the notes on the form which says, "If you are requesting information
    > from any other source within Kent Police, only one £10.00 fee is
    > required irrespective of the number of information systems searched".
    > Does this imply that only Kent's records will be checked? Won't I need
    > clearence from the entire UK? I realise this is probably a trival
    > question, but when walking the tightrope of this process, I don't want
    > there to be any margin for error.
    > Thank you for helping a complete newbie!
    > Best Regards,
    > Marc.

Marc Blake

Hello All,

Thank you all for your help. People weren't overestimating when they
told me what a great source of help this NG is!

While not wishing to flog the preverble dead horse, as the form I have
is almost certainly the right one, my only follow up question to this
regards Michelle's long and informative reply (thanks!). The form I
have does not have any tick boxes on it to distinguish between Local
and National Police Check. I take it I can presume that I get both
processed automatically?

Thank you for humouring an over anxious person!

Best Regards,

Marc.

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:56:05 +0000 (UTC), "Michelle Smith"
<> wrote:

    >Hi there Marc
    >I work for the Police Force in Scotland but I know the form you have is
    >correct cause its the same for England. You should tick the boxes for Local
    >Police Check and one for the National which is Scotland Yard cause they cost
    >10 British pounds to get both done at the same time.
    >The one from Scotland Yard can take up to 40 days to arrive where as the
    >local Police Station you submit your form into will send out a letterheaded
    >Certificate which will show if you have anything on their system as will the
    >National one . The national cert is the one that has the 2 blue lines down
    >it and if you try photocopy it will come out with FRAUD written all over it.
    >For security reasons that's why you can't copy it !
    >If you are confused go to the local police station with proof of you home
    >address like a utility bill that has your current addy on it, that can be a
    >phone bill, electric bill, bank statement etc...
    >also take your passport or birth Certificate and then they can help you fill
    >it out and take photocopies of your required documents.
    >Good Luck it's easy stuff
    >Michelle & herb
    >NOA1 21st April 2003
    >NOA2 12th December 2003 ....Yeeehaaaaa! we are free from Nebraska !

Sunflwrgrl13

My fiance just recently sent off for his police check. Apparently there
is a new form out recently. Make sure the one you have is the newest
version. Not sure if the new versions has those tick boxes or not. You
could PM my fiance and ask him. His screenname is HighlandPenguin. He's
in Scotland, but he'll still be using the same form as yourself. His
name is Scott.



Cheers,

Jamie

Sibsie

Scottish Police Services are totally different to England and Wales.
That's why they have the tick boxes.



Your own form is fine.



(Ex Met Detective)

John Murray

I just visited my local Police Station to request a Subject Access Form
- and I was given a Form 19:2 - (heading on form is Strathclyde Police
- Data Protection Act 1984)



The Form is 8 pages long, including instructions etc. Pages 5, 6 and 7
have all the categories to choose from - and there's 30 to pick from!





Can anyone let me know which of these I need to tick?

Sibsie

Originally posted by John Murray

    > I just visited my local Police Station to request a Subject Access
    > Form - and I was given a Form 19:2 - (heading on form is Strathclyde
    > Police - Data Protection Act 1984)


    > The Form is 8 pages long, including instructions etc. Pages 5, 6
    > and 7 have all the categories to choose from - and there's 30 to
    > pick from!



Can anyone let me know which of these I need to tick? Scotland
is totally different to England and Wales but you want the Prosecutions
and Convictions and cautions details for your purpose.

John Murray

The first page of categories seems to relate to "information held on
Police Computers other than the Police National Computer" - Category
"A" is - SCOTTISH CRIMINAL RECORD OFFICE - information relating to
persons convicted or pending prosecution, convictions, fingerprint
details, physical description, release dates, cross references.



The Third page of categories is for "informaton held on, or relating to,
the Police National Computer (relevant if convicted in England or
Wales)" Cetegory "1A" is PERSON RECORD/PROPERTY and the two option -
PROSECUTION/CONVICTION HISTORY, details of offenders, suspected
offenders and cautioned persons and those awaiting trila, and
CONVICTIONS, information about people whp have been convicted or
awaiting trial.





I guess both of these would be relevant?