Elenfair

I was browsing through the SSA website today, and it had a section there
for aliens (authorised to work).



http://www.ssa.gov/ssnvisa/whatyou_need.htm



It says that if you filled out the DS-230 (which I did) and checked the
boxes for 33a ("Do you want the Social Security Administration to assign
you an SSN (and issue a card) or issue you a new card (if you have an
SSN)? You must answer "Yes" to this question and to the "Consent To
Disclosure" in order to receive an SSN and/or card.") and 33b (the
Consent to Disclosure), then the SSA will issue you a card
automatically.



Their site says: "Social Security Administration: Mails your Social
Security number card to your U.S. mailing address. Call SSA toll-free
at 1-800-772-1213, if you don’t get your card within 3 weeks of being
admitted to the U.S."



..



Okay. So do I actually have to go to the SSA office and apply for an
SSN? Will they ACTUALLY do what they say and issue one automatically?



I'm confused! Hee.



Help!



Elly

Karen D

Originally posted by Elenfair

    > It says that if you filled out the DS-230 (which I did) and checked
    > the boxes for 33a ("Do you want the Social Security Administration to
    > assign you an SSN (and issue a card) or issue you a new card (if you
    > have an SSN)? You must answer "Yes" to this question and to the
    > "Consent To Disclosure" in order to receive an SSN and/or card.") and
    > 33b (the Consent to Disclosure), then the SSA will issue you a card
    > automatically.


    > Their site says: "Social Security Administration: Mails your Social
    > Security number card to your U.S. mailing address. Call SSA toll-free
    > at 1-800-772-1213, if you don’t get your card within 3 weeks of being
    > admitted to the U.S."


    > Okay. So do I actually have to go to the SSA office and apply for an
    > SSN? Will they ACTUALLY do what they say and issue one automatically?

    >

Hi Elly



When I filled out DS-230, I noticed and wondered that too! I put that I
wanted them to assign me a SSN and said Yes to disclosure consent.
However, my experience is that I arrived in the US on 1st Sept and as no
SS# had arrived automatically by 24 Oct, (didn't really expect it to!),
I went along to my local SS office and applied for one!



I'd be interested to hear other people's point of view on this!

Janadeen

Ditto.



Who knows! what that line on the application is for! - certainly
doesn't hold true. We were all excited when we filled it out to but to
no avail - we had to go to the SS Office & apply for a number. I don't
of of anyone who's been able to get a ss# thru that line on the
application. )-:









Originally posted by Karen D

    > Hi Elly


    > When I filled out DS-230, I noticed and wondered that too! I put that
    > I wanted them to assign me a SSN and said Yes to disclosure consent.
    > However, my experience is that I arrived in the US on 1st Sept and as
    > no SS# had arrived automatically by 24 Oct, (didn't really expect it
    > to!), I went along to my local SS office and applied for one!


I'd be interested to hear other people's point of view on this!

Jeffreyhy

Elen,



Notice the title of the DS-230 - Application for Immigrant Visa and
Alien Registration.



I don't know if a spouse who receives an immigrant visa, and who is
granted PR status on entry, automatically receives a SS card from the
SSA, but I have never heard of a K1 or K3 getting a SS card
automatically.



It may be that the SSA distinguishes between immigrants and non-
immigrants, or it may be that the DOS or the CIS at the POE
distinguishes and does not pass the information from the DS-230 on to
the SSA in the case of non-immigrants.



Whatever the situation, as a K1 I would not plan not getting a SS card
without going to a SSA office and applying for it.



Regards, JEff



Originally posted by Elenfair

    > I was browsing through the SSA website today, and it had a section
    > there for aliens (authorised to work).


    > http://www.ssa.gov/ssnvisa/whatyou_need.htm


    > It says that if you filled out the DS-230 (which I did) and checked
    > the boxes for 33a ("Do you want the Social Security Administration to
    > assign you an SSN (and issue a card) or issue you a new card (if you
    > have an SSN)? You must answer "Yes" to this question and to the
    > "Consent To Disclosure" in order to receive an SSN and/or card.") and
    > 33b (the Consent to Disclosure), then the SSA will issue you a card
    > automatically.


    > Their site says: "Social Security Administration: Mails your Social
    > Security number card to your U.S. mailing address. Call SSA toll-free
    > at 1-800-772-1213, if you don’t get your card within 3 weeks of being
    > admitted to the U.S."


    > ...


    > Okay. So do I actually have to go to the SSA office and apply for an
    > SSN? Will they ACTUALLY do what they say and issue one automatically?


    > I'm confused! Hee.


    > Help!


Elly

Michael D. Young

Elenfair <member9538@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<>...
    > I was browsing through the SSA website today, and it had a section there
    > for aliens (authorised to work).
    >
    >
    >
    > http://www.ssa.gov/ssnvisa/whatyou_need.htm
    >
    >
    >
    > It says that if you filled out the DS-230 (which I did) and checked the
    > boxes for 33a ("Do you want the Social Security Administration to assign
    > you an SSN (and issue a card) or issue you a new card (if you have an
    > SSN)? You must answer "Yes" to this question and to the "Consent To
    > Disclosure" in order to receive an SSN and/or card.") and 33b (the
    > Consent to Disclosure), then the SSA will issue you a card
    > automatically.
    >
    >
    >
    > Their site says: "Social Security Administration: Mails your Social
    > Security number card to your U.S. mailing address. Call SSA toll-free
    > at 1-800-772-1213, if you don?t get your card within 3 weeks of being
    > admitted to the U.S."


The Social Security Administration (SSA) has entered into agreements
with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Department of
State (DOS) for those agencies to assist SSA in enumerating aliens.
These agencies will assist SSA by collecting as part of the
immigration process the information SSA needs to assign SSNs and issue
SSN cards. DHS then will electronically forward the enumeration data
to SSA, after the person is admitted to the U.S., to assign SSNs and
issue SSN cards. SSA calls this data sharing process Enumeration at
Entry (EAE).

Original SSN or replacement card applications are now taken at most
United States embassies as part of the immigrant visa application
process. Individuals applying for nonimmigrant visas currently are not
eligible to be assigned SSNs through the EAE process.

An individual applying at a foreign service post for an immigrant visa
and alien registration, i.e., completes the Form DS-230 Application
for Immigrant Visa and Alien Registration, should answer "yes" to the
questions 33a and 33b on the form if he or she wants an SSN assigned
or replacement card issued.

The individual should receive his or her original or replacement SSN
card within 3 weeks after arriving in the United States. The SSN card
will be mailed to the same United States mailing address that is used
to mail the Permanent Resident card (I-551). SSN Areas 729 through 733
have been allocated for Social Security numbers issued through the EAE
process.

If you answered "yes" to being assigned an SSN on form DS-230 and you
have not receive your SSN card within 3 weeks of being admitted to the
United States, you need to go into your local Social Security office.

However, only aliens age 18 and over will be processed by EAE.
Children under age 18 must apply for Social Security numbers (SSNs) at
a Social Security office after admission to the U.S. This is so SSA
may collect their parents' SSNs to provide to Internal Revenue Service
(IRS).

Individuals with nonimmigrant visas also must apply for Social
Security numbers at a Social Security office after being admitted into
the U.S.

You can obtain the address and directions to Social Security offices
from the Social Security Office Locator, which is available on the
Internet at:

http://www.ssa.gov/locator

When going into a Social Security office be sure to take proof of age,
identity, lawful alien status and work authorization.

If you have been assigned an SSN, the office can provide you with the
number. However, if you have not received your card within 14 days of
your SSN being assigned, normally you will need to apply for a
replacement SSN card.

To apply for an original SSN and card you need to provide at least two
documents as evidence to establish your age, identity, lawful alien
status and work authorization. Proof of age is not required when
applying for a replacement SSN card.

The birth certificate is the preferred document an individual can
provide when proof of age is requested. However, SSA can accept a
passport or immigration document that shows a date of birth to
establish age.

The following list includes some of the documents that SSA normally
accept as proof of identity:

-- Driver's license
-- Passport
-- U.S. Government or State employee ID card
-- School ID card, record, or report card
-- Marriage or divorce record
-- Health insurance card
-- Clinic, doctor, or hospital records
-- Military record or ID card
-- Court order for name change
-- Adoption records
-- Church membership or confirmation record
-- Life insurance policy

The unexpired I-551, I-94, or employment authorization document
establish lawful alien status.

Employment Authorization Documents:

-- I-688B
-- I-766
-- I-94 (With visa status that allows work in the U.S.)
-- I-551 (Stamp or card)

SSA cannot accept a receipt or notice of action as proof of lawful
alien status or work authorization.

A SSN card should be received card in the mail within two weeks after
the application and documents have been received when applying within
the United States.

However, when an alien requests an SSN or replacement SSN card, SSA
will verify his or her documents/status with the appropriate Bureau of
the Department of Homeland Security. If verification is not available
through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE)
system, SSA will send Form G-845 for manual verification. This may
delay the assigning of an SSN or the issuing of a replacement card by
several weeks or months.

All cards are mailed from Social Security Headquarters in Baltimore,
Maryland.

When submitting an SSN application at an SSA office you might want to
request that the office processing the application contact you with
the SSN once it has been assigned. This allows you to obtain your SSN
before the card arrives in the mail.

You can contact the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS)
National Customer Service Center by calling, 1-800-375-5283 or
visiting your local CIS office. You can locate CIS offices on their
Website at:

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/fieldoffices/index.htm

Employers can contact the CIS Business Liaison Office Hotline at their
toll-free number, 1-800-357-2099 with work authorization and Form I-9
questions.

You may also wish to review "Employer Responsibilities When Hiring
Foreign Workers," that can be found on our Website at:

http://www.ssa.gov/employer/hiring.htm