Alect

> I think that it's perfectly legal to claim you are not a US citizen
> when, in fact, you are.
>
> Ian

And I don't necessarily think that's true. Strictly speaking stating
you are not a citizen may not be illegal but it depends on the
circumstances and context within which you do.

Eg. if you receive a jury duty summons and fill in the form and check
that you are not a citizen (and thus not eligible for jury duty) I am
pretty sure that is illegal - it's either perjury or contempt of court
or something related - a lawyer can probably specify.

Jemavalon

> And I don't necessarily think that's true. Strictly speaking stating
> you are not a citizen may not be illegal but it depends on the
> circumstances and context within which you do.
>
> Eg. if you receive a jury duty summons and fill in the form and check
> that you are not a citizen (and thus not eligible for jury duty) I am
> pretty sure that is illegal - it's either perjury or contempt of court
> or something related - a lawyer can probably specify.

I'm wondering whether you think that this new test will really change a
way an average Naturalization applicant prepares for the exam and
his/hers understanding the understanding of US History or civics. To
quote USCIS Director
(http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrele...Qs113006.pdf):



It seems to me that if someone was preparing for the test just by
memorizing the answers to the questions without too much understanding,
why do we think that this person would actually open a US History book
or even read the Constitution in preparation for the new exam, instead
of just memorizing answers to the set of new 100-144 questions? Is there
something magic in the new set of questions, that would actually inspire
the average immigrant to study beyond the questions?

Just wondering what other people think ...

Julia

Pianoplayer

> I'm wondering whether you think that this new test will really change
> a way an average Naturalization applicant prepares for the exam and
> his/hers understanding the understanding of US History or civics. To
> quote USCIS Director
> (http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrele...Qs113006.pdf):
>
>
>
> It seems to me that if someone was preparing for the test just by
> memorizing the answers to the questions without too much
> understanding, why do we think that this person would actually open a
> US History book or even read the Constitution in preparation for the
> new exam, instead of just memorizing answers to the set of new 100-144
> questions? Is there something magic in the new set of questions, that
> would actually inspire the average immigrant to study beyond the
> questions?
>
> Just wondering what other people think ...
>
> Julia

I think you are right - most people will probably just end up studying
the questions by rote memory. However, I understand the argument that
these questions are a little more probing. Even though not much, it gets
a little beyond the facts. Perhaps someone will learn a thing or two.
Let's hope.