Sphyrapicus

I heard in another forum about a proposed bill being drafted by Chuck
Schumer (Senator from NY) regarding some changes to the INA.



Supposedly he is proposing to remove all I-751 waivers, he is proposing
to make cpr for 10 years instead of 2 years (with no option to submit a
waiver -- including one for battered spouse). Apparently his premise is
that the permanent resident status is granted because the alien is
married to a USC. Given that the marriage fails, the alien should have
no right to remain in the US.



Is this just idle gossip or has someone heard of such a proposal
by Schumer?

Hypertweeky

Originally posted by sphyrapicus

    > I heard in another forum about a proposed bill being drafted by Chuck
    > Schumer (Senator from NY) regarding some changes to the INA.


    > Supposedly he is proposing to remove all I-751 waivers, he is
    > proposing to make cpr for 10 years instead of 2 years (with no option
    > to submit a waiver -- including one for battered spouse). Apparently
    > his premise is that the permanent resident status is granted because
    > the alien is married to a USC. Given that the marriage fails, the
    > alien should have no right to remain in the US.


    > Is this just idle gossip or has someone heard of such a proposal by
    > Schumer?



Hey funky name



I havent heard of that, what forum are you talking about?

By the way hows Christmas?, I hope great!

    

Sphyrapicus

Originally posted by Hypertweeky

    > Hey funky name


    > I havent heard of that, what forum are you talking about?

    > By the way hows Christmas?, I hope great!

    >

Christmas was good except it was the first one without snow for me in
over 10 years. Usually I am up in Canada or upstate NY. We stayed in
Florida this year. The last time my city where I live had snow was some
time in the 1980s.



It's from the site that Udall warned me to never ever listen to because
they provide lots of misinformation. But, here it is nonetheless for
whatever it is worth:

]http://discuss.ilw.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a...f=902603441&m-
=3036037525&p=2[/url]

Sibsie

]http://www.senate.gov/~schumer/Schum...om/press_rele-
ases/PR00999.html[/url]



Here's his website thingie.

Folinskyinla

Originally posted by sphyrapicus

    > I heard in another forum about a proposed bill being drafted by Chuck
    > Schumer (Senator from NY) regarding some changes to the INA.


    > Supposedly he is proposing to remove all I-751 waivers, he is
    > proposing to make cpr for 10 years instead of 2 years (with no option
    > to submit a waiver -- including one for battered spouse). Apparently
    > his premise is that the permanent resident status is granted because
    > the alien is married to a USC. Given that the marriage fails, the
    > alien should have no right to remain in the US.


    > Is this just idle gossip or has someone heard of such a proposal by
    > Schumer?



Hi:



Weird things get introduced all the time, never to be heard of again.
That is not to say that they can surface in strange ways.



However, all you have here is that a ONE [out of a hundred] senators is
THINKING of introducing a bill.



It is way premature to worry.

Hypertweeky

Originally posted by sphyrapicus

    > Christmas was good except it was the first one without snow for me in
    > over 10 years. Usually I am up in Canada or upstate NY. We stayed in
    > Florida this year. The last time my city where I live had snow was
    > some time in the 1980s.


    > It's from the site that Udall warned me to never ever listen to
    > because they provide lots of misinformation. But, here it is
    > nonetheless for whatever it is worth:

    > ]http://discuss.ilw.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a...1&f=902603441-
    > &m=3036037525&p=2[/url]



Florida?? Nice although you didnt get to see the snow, sorry!, maybe
next year??.

It gets very cold here but it doesnt snow *sigh*

As for the forum where you read that.. lets just ignore it, plus the
forum is ugly

Sibsie hon, would you get on messenger??

Rete

Originally posted by sphyrapicus

    > I heard in another forum about a proposed bill being drafted by Chuck
    > Schumer (Senator from NY) regarding some changes to the INA.


    > Supposedly he is proposing to remove all I-751 waivers, he is
    > proposing to make cpr for 10 years instead of 2 years (with no option
    > to submit a waiver -- including one for battered spouse). Apparently
    > his premise is that the permanent resident status is granted because
    > the alien is married to a USC. Given that the marriage fails, the
    > alien should have no right to remain in the US.


    > Is this just idle gossip or has someone heard of such a proposal by
    > Schumer?





He is one of my senators. Don't care for him or for Ms. Clinton but I
would not be overly concerned at this point. One because of what Mr. F
says and the other because NYC has such a large immigrant population and
so many of us USC's are married to foreigners that he will not do
anything that might jeopardize his status. He is already on shaky
grounds as it is and all he has to do is alienate the governor and his
party a little more and he will find himself facing a strong opponent
for party endorsement. They had asked our soon to be former Mayor, John
Spencer, who is as corrupt as they come if he wanted to run against
Schumer but Spencer on the wisdom of his advisors decided to say no.
Schumer's track record in NYS is not the best nor the worse. But
nothing outstanding to stead him in good with the political machinery
that he needs behind him for re-election.



Rete

Ironporer

Originally posted by sphyrapicus

    > I heard in another forum about a proposed bill being drafted by Chuck
    > Schumer (Senator from NY) regarding some changes to the INA.


    > Supposedly he is proposing to remove all I-751 waivers, he is
    > proposing to make cpr for 10 years instead of 2 years (with no option
    > to submit a waiver -- including one for battered spouse). Apparently
    > his premise is that the permanent resident status is granted because
    > the alien is married to a USC. Given that the marriage fails, the
    > alien should have no right to remain in the US.


    > Is this just idle gossip or has someone heard of such a proposal by
    > Schumer?



What exactly is the difference between CPR and (full?)PR?



I guess (to avoid some rather wry answer from Mr F) I should ask...what
is the effect of the two... in what way can CPR/FPR affect the lives of
those who hold such a status? Does on carry less/more priviledge than
the other? If so, what/how?

Folinskyinla

Originally posted by ironporer

    > What exactly is the difference between CPR and (full?)PR?


    > I guess (to avoid some rather wry answer from Mr F) I should
    > ask...what is the effect of the two... in what way can CPR/FPR affect
    > the lives of those who hold such a status? Does on carry less/more
    > priviledge than the other? If so, what/how?



Hi:



The idea of the "condition" was placed in the Immigration & Nationality
Act in the 1986 Marraige Fraud Amendments. In 1990, it was imposed on
the new "EB-5" investor visas.



Before 1980, there was the so-called "Seventh Preference" which was the
precursor of todays refugee status. It had the idea of "conditional
entrant" -- where the refugee in question was paroled in for two years
and thereafter was granted retroactive adjustment to permanent resident
status. The 1980 Refugee Act eliminated the Seventh Preference and
"executed" the U.S.'s obligations under the Refugee Convention to which
the US was a party. [BTW, although no longer "conditional" -- refugees
are adjusted retroactively back to date of entry while asylees are
retroactively adjusted to one year prior to approval of the adjustment].



It appears to be an importation of contract law into the immigration
laws. There are many provisions of the Act that are dependent upon the
idea of "lawful permanent resident." Time for citizenship is one of
them. So, apparently, rather than disturbing many portions of the INA,
the idea of conditions was introduced -- the resident status is
"permanent" PROVIDED you do something in the future.



The contract law of conditions gave me headaches in law school and I
don't really care to explain all that thouroughly. But to give you an
idea -- lets say that a company signed a 10 year lease in 2000 for space
in the World Trade Center -- there was a condition in the lease that the
World Trade Center be there -- either express or more likely, implied.
I'm willing to bet that the landlord didn't get his October 1, 2001 rent
check and or any subsequent rent checks.

Andy Platt

Personally I would support a move that meant you didn't have to file the
I-751 for 10 years as long as it didn't change the citizenship requirements
because it would mean not having to file it all all. Right now I have to
file the I-751 and, before it's been processed, can file for citizenship.
That's plain stupid!

Anyway, such legislation would have next to zero chance of passing, it's
just the usual sabre rattling.

Andy