Chiguedna

For example; if you are filing an I-130 for spouse and you are a
naturalized usc, do you have to fill in your old A# on line 10 or is it
not applicable due to the fact that you are now a usc?

Ian-Mstm

> For example; if you are filing an I-130 for spouse and you are a
> naturalized usc, do you have to fill in your old A# on line 10 or is
> it not applicable due to the fact that you are now a usc?

If you are now a USC, your former A# is no longer applicable.

Ian

Voltes34

"ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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| > For example; if you are filing an I-130 for spouse and you are a
| > naturalized usc, do you have to fill in your old A# on line 10 or is
| > it not applicable due to the fact that you are now a usc?
|
| If you are now a USC, your former A# is no longer applicable.
|
| Ian
|
| --
|

On the contrary, your A# becomes a part of your immigration records for life
and that is how they can referenced how you became a USC through
naturalization. If it is asked in any petition for immigration benefit that
you would be filing for anybody, you would need it.

Although all USCs are treated equally as another USC under the law, all
naturalized USCs have A# in their records as opposed to USCs who acquired
citizenship at birth!

Ian-Mstm

> "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> news:35$415305$4228394$...
> |
> | > For example; if you are filing an I-130 for spouse and you are a
> | > naturalized usc, do you have to fill in your old A# on line 10 or
> | > is
> | > it not applicable due to the fact that you are now a usc?
> |
> | If you are now a USC, your former A# is no longer applicable.
> |
> | Ian
> |
> | --
> |
>
> On the contrary, your A# becomes a part of your immigration records
> for life
> and that is how they can referenced how you became a USC through
> naturalization. If it is asked in any petition for immigration benefit
> that
> you would be filing for anybody, you would need it.
>
> Although all USCs are treated equally as another USC under the law,
> all
> naturalized USCs have A# in their records as opposed to USCs who
> acquired
> citizenship at birth!

I disagree... and I have an approved I-130 to prove it. If the I-130 was
for USC's only, the question wouldn't even exist... however, the form is
used for both USC's and PR's. It is my position that a naturalized USC
never again needs to use the A#.

Ian

NewYorker

I did filled in the A# to be conservative. Both of your arguments make
sense. I would lean more towards Ian. The A# should be invalid since, for
the fact that, they took away GC during naturalization.

I still like to see an official statement somewhere though.

"ian-mstm" >
> I disagree... and I have an approved I-130 to prove it. If the I-130 was
> for USC's only, the question wouldn't even exist... however, the form is
> used for both USC's and PR's. It is my position that a naturalized USC
> never again needs to use the A#.
>
> Ian

Hcj1440

> For example; if you are filing an I-130 for spouse and you are a
> naturalized usc, do you have to fill in your old A# on line 10 or is
> it not applicable due to the fact that you are now a usc?

I do not know what the USCIS requirement is, but my lawyer filled in my
A# and submitted my naturalization certificate when I filed I-130 for my
husband. (I believe A# is on the naturalization certificate anyway.)

Voltes34

"ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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| > "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
| > news:35$415305$4228394$...
| > |
| > | > For example; if you are filing an I-130 for spouse and you are a
| > | > naturalized usc, do you have to fill in your old A# on line 10 or
| > | > is
| > | > it not applicable due to the fact that you are now a usc?
| > |
| > | If you are now a USC, your former A# is no longer applicable.
| > |
| > | Ian
| > |
| > | --
| > |
| >
| > On the contrary, your A# becomes a part of your immigration records
| > for life
| > and that is how they can referenced how you became a USC through
| > naturalization. If it is asked in any petition for immigration benefit
| > that
| > you would be filing for anybody, you would need it.
| >
| > Although all USCs are treated equally as another USC under the law,
| > all
| > naturalized USCs have A# in their records as opposed to USCs who
| > acquired
| > citizenship at birth!
|
| I disagree... and I have an approved I-130 to prove it. If the I-130 was
| for USC's only, the question wouldn't even exist... however, the form is
| used for both USC's and PR's. It is my position that a naturalized USC
| never again needs to use the A#.
|
| Ian
|

You may disagree and your position may be different but USCIS would never
make A# disappear from anybody's record once he/she becomes a US citizen. It
would always be a part of you whether or not you prefer it that way. It is a
fact that naturalized US citizens were once immigrants with A#s at the
beginning of the naturalization process and when they finally become US
citizens they are issued with Naturalization Certificates as proof of
citizenship. Didn't you notice that the A# is still in that certificate? Why
do you think it's still there?
When you lose your Certificate of Citizenship or Naturalization Certificate
and you are issued a replacement after an application would you expect your
A# not be printed in that certificate if you had one before? Only natural
born US citizens issued Certificates of Citizenship can expect not to have
A#.
I agree that you may not need your A# as often anymore compared to when you
were still an immigrant for obvious reasons but it is false to say that your
A# would become irrelevant or invalidated. Face the fact that your US
citizenship was a result of an immigration process and that process would
always be referenced with an A# forever.
Even if you are the USC petitioner there may still be situations where your
records (with A#) may need to be reviewed for points in law relevant to your
petition.

I understand the emotional aspect of having an A# even if someone is already
naturalized just as much as I understand the resistant feeling of some LPRs
having to still fall in line at some immigration lines along with other
nonimmigrants when entering the US.

Voltes34

"Voltes34" <> wrote in message
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| "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
| news:35$415305$4228616$...
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|| > "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
|| > news:35$415305$4228394$...
|| > |
|| > | > For example; if you are filing an I-130 for spouse and you are a
|| > | > naturalized usc, do you have to fill in your old A# on line 10 or
|| > | > is
|| > | > it not applicable due to the fact that you are now a usc?
|| > |
|| > | If you are now a USC, your former A# is no longer applicable.
|| > |
|| > | Ian
|| > |
|| > | --
|| > |
|| >
|| > On the contrary, your A# becomes a part of your immigration records
|| > for life
|| > and that is how they can referenced how you became a USC through
|| > naturalization. If it is asked in any petition for immigration benefit
|| > that
|| > you would be filing for anybody, you would need it.
|| >
|| > Although all USCs are treated equally as another USC under the law,
|| > all
|| > naturalized USCs have A# in their records as opposed to USCs who
|| > acquired
|| > citizenship at birth!
||
|| I disagree... and I have an approved I-130 to prove it. If the I-130 was
|| for USC's only, the question wouldn't even exist... however, the form is
|| used for both USC's and PR's. It is my position that a naturalized USC
|| never again needs to use the A#.
||
|| Ian
||
|
| You may disagree and your position may be different but USCIS would never
| make A# disappear from anybody's record once he/she becomes a US citizen.
It
| would always be a part of you whether or not you prefer it that way. It is
a
| fact that naturalized US citizens were once immigrants with A#s at the
| beginning of the naturalization process and when they finally become US
| citizens they are issued with Naturalization Certificates as proof of
| citizenship. Didn't you notice that the A# is still in that certificate?
Why
| do you think it's still there?
| When you lose your Certificate of Citizenship or Naturalization
Certificate
| and you are issued a replacement after an application would you expect
your
| A# not be printed in that certificate if you had one before? Only natural
| born US citizens issued Certificates of Citizenship can expect not to have
| A#.
| I agree that you may not need your A# as often anymore compared to when
you
| were still an immigrant for obvious reasons but it is false to say that
your
| A# would become irrelevant or invalidated. Face the fact that your US
| citizenship was a result of an immigration process and that process would
| always be referenced with an A# forever.
| Even if you are the USC petitioner there may still be situations where
your
| records (with A#) may need to be reviewed for points in law relevant to
your
| petition.
|
| I understand the emotional aspect of having an A# even if someone is
already
| naturalized just as much as I understand the resistant feeling of some
LPRs
| having to still fall in line at some immigration lines along with other
| nonimmigrants when entering the US.
|
|
|

I may add that even if you die your A# won't be reissued to any human being
again ever!

Ian-Mstm

> "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> news:35$415305$4228616$...
> |
> | > "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> | > news:35$415305$4228394$...
> | > |
> | > | > For example; if you are filing an I-130 for spouse and you are
> | > | > a
> | > | > naturalized usc, do you have to fill in your old A# on line 10
> | > | > or
> | > | > is
> | > | > it not applicable due to the fact that you are now a usc?
> | > |
> | > | If you are now a USC, your former A# is no longer applicable.
> | > |
> | > | Ian
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > |
> | >
> | > On the contrary, your A# becomes a part of your immigration
> | > records
> | > for life
> | > and that is how they can referenced how you became a USC through
> | > naturalization. If it is asked in any petition for immigration
> | > benefit
> | > that
> | > you would be filing for anybody, you would need it.
> | >
> | > Although all USCs are treated equally as another USC under the
> | > law,
> | > all
> | > naturalized USCs have A# in their records as opposed to USCs who
> | > acquired
> | > citizenship at birth!
> |
> | I disagree... and I have an approved I-130 to prove it. If the I-130
> | was
> | for USC's only, the question wouldn't even exist... however, the
> | form is
> | used for both USC's and PR's. It is my position that a naturalized
> | USC
> | never again needs to use the A#.
> |
> | Ian
> |
>
> You may disagree and your position may be different but USCIS would
> never
> make A# disappear from anybody's record once he/she becomes a US
> citizen. It
> would always be a part of you whether or not you prefer it that way.
> It is a
> fact that naturalized US citizens were once immigrants with A#s at the
> beginning of the naturalization process and when they finally become
> US
> citizens they are issued with Naturalization Certificates as proof of
> citizenship. Didn't you notice that the A# is still in that
> certificate? Why
> do you think it's still there?
> When you lose your Certificate of Citizenship or Naturalization
> Certificate
> and you are issued a replacement after an application would you expect
> your
> A# not be printed in that certificate if you had one before? Only
> natural
> born US citizens issued Certificates of Citizenship can expect not to
> have
> A#.
> I agree that you may not need your A# as often anymore compared to
> when you
> were still an immigrant for obvious reasons but it is false to say
> that your
> A# would become irrelevant or invalidated. Face the fact that your US
> citizenship was a result of an immigration process and that process
> would
> always be referenced with an A# forever.
> Even if you are the USC petitioner there may still be situations where
> your
> records (with A#) may need to be reviewed for points in law relevant
> to your
> petition.
>
> I understand the emotional aspect of having an A# even if someone is
> already
> naturalized just as much as I understand the resistant feeling of some
> LPRs
> having to still fall in line at some immigration lines along with
> other
> nonimmigrants when entering the US.

I didn't say the A# would no longer be part of a case file or that they
couldn't use it to trace the means by which you naturalized... I'm
saying that once you are a US citizen, you are no longer required to use
it. USCIS can call me whatever they want and refer to me in any terms
they desire... but *I* am not required to use my A# once I am a USC.



I never said the A# would become "irrelevant or invalidated"... those
are your words. I said it was no longer applicable... big difference.
Don't try to ascribe context where none exists.

Ian

Ian-Mstm

> "Voltes34" <> wrote in message
> news:BAjkh.348$...
> |
> | "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> | news:35$415305$4228616$...
> ||
> || > "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> || > news:35$415305$4228394$...
> || > |
> || > | > For example; if you are filing an I-130 for spouse and you
> || > | > are a
> || > | > naturalized usc, do you have to fill in your old A# on line
> || > | > 10 or
> || > | > is
> || > | > it not applicable due to the fact that you are now a usc?
> || > |
> || > | If you are now a USC, your former A# is no longer applicable.
> || > |
> || > | Ian
> || > |
> || > | --
> || > |
> || >
> || > On the contrary, your A# becomes a part of your immigration
> || > records
> || > for life
> || > and that is how they can referenced how you became a USC through
> || > naturalization. If it is asked in any petition for immigration
> || > benefit
> || > that
> || > you would be filing for anybody, you would need it.
> || >
> || > Although all USCs are treated equally as another USC under the
> || > law,
> || > all
> || > naturalized USCs have A# in their records as opposed to USCs who
> || > acquired
> || > citizenship at birth!
> ||
> || I disagree... and I have an approved I-130 to prove it. If the I-
> || 130 was
> || for USC's only, the question wouldn't even exist... however, the
> || form is
> || used for both USC's and PR's. It is my position that a naturalized
> || USC
> || never again needs to use the A#.
> ||
> || Ian
> ||
> |
> | You may disagree and your position may be different but USCIS would
> | never
> | make A# disappear from anybody's record once he/she becomes a US
> | citizen.
> It
> | would always be a part of you whether or not you prefer it that
> | way. It is
> a
> | fact that naturalized US citizens were once immigrants with A#s at
> | the
> | beginning of the naturalization process and when they finally become
> | US
> | citizens they are issued with Naturalization Certificates as proof
> | of
> | citizenship. Didn't you notice that the A# is still in that
> | certificate?
> Why
> | do you think it's still there?
> | When you lose your Certificate of Citizenship or Naturalization
> Certificate
> | and you are issued a replacement after an application would you
> | expect
> your
> | A# not be printed in that certificate if you had one before? Only
> | natural
> | born US citizens issued Certificates of Citizenship can expect
> | not to have
> | A#.
> | I agree that you may not need your A# as often anymore compared
> | to when
> you
> | were still an immigrant for obvious reasons but it is false to
> | say that
> your
> | A# would become irrelevant or invalidated. Face the fact that
> | your US
> | citizenship was a result of an immigration process and that
> | process would
> | always be referenced with an A# forever.
> | Even if you are the USC petitioner there may still be
> | situations where
> your
> | records (with A#) may need to be reviewed for points in law
> | relevant to
> your
> | petition.
> |
> | I understand the emotional aspect of having an A# even if someone is
> already
> | naturalized just as much as I understand the resistant feeling
> | of some
> LPRs
> | having to still fall in line at some immigration lines along with
> | other
> | nonimmigrants when entering the US.
> |
> |
> |
>
> I may add that even if you die your A# won't be reissued to any human
> being
> again ever!

I'm quite happy to let you go first... no problem there!

Ian