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Old 12-21-2006, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
Vnoe
 
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Default Request for evidence

We just received a request for evidence today. Now the problem is that they
want proof of us meeting within the last two years...prior to filing the
petition. We live on the Cda/USA border and we don't have any travel
itineraries or airline tickets...nothing. We commute back and forth. I
never though to keep any kind of receipts. We do have some receipts showing
that we bought my engagement ring in Canada, my fiance (I'm the Canadian)
buys coal from Canada, as well as parts for equipment. We have receipts from
those, but that is it. Does anyone have any kind of advice??? Will these
few items work??? When we submitted the I129F, we included many photos of us
together, as we were told that would be sufficient. I'm just tired of the
delays and want to get this moving along.
Thanks so much in advance for your help....V
 

Old 12-21-2006, 06:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
Olwagner@Netcourrier.Com
 
Posts: 529
Default Re: Request for evidence

I would say that 2 credit card receipts showing that you each bought
something in the same store 1 minute appart could be good enought.
You may include a copy of your respective credit cards to show that teh
two receipts are indeed yours.

When you crossed the border together, have you by chance once both had
your passport stamped ... that could could also be something to show
that you travelled together ...

Do you have any photo of the two of you that can reasonably appear to
be taken in the past two years ...

The more evidence, the better.


vnoe wrote:
> We just received a request for evidence today. Now the problem is that they
> want proof of us meeting within the last two years...prior to filing the
> petition. We live on the Cda/USA border and we don't have any travel
> itineraries or airline tickets...nothing. We commute back and forth. I
> never though to keep any kind of receipts. We do have some receipts showing
> that we bought my engagement ring in Canada, my fiance (I'm the Canadian)
> buys coal from Canada, as well as parts for equipment. We have receipts from
> those, but that is it. Does anyone have any kind of advice??? Will these
> few items work??? When we submitted the I129F, we included many photos of us
> together, as we were told that would be sufficient. I'm just tired of the
> delays and want to get this moving along.
> Thanks so much in advance for your help....V
 
Old 12-21-2006, 06:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
Noorah101
 
Posts: 12637
Default Re: Request for evidence

> We just received a request for evidence today. Now the problem is
> that they
> want proof of us meeting within the last two years...prior to filing
> the
> petition. We live on the Cda/USA border and we don't have any travel
> itineraries or airline tickets...nothing. We commute back and forth.
> I
> never though to keep any kind of receipts. We do have some receipts
> showing
> that we bought my engagement ring in Canada, my fiance (I'm the
> Canadian)
> buys coal from Canada, as well as parts for equipment. We have
> receipts from
> those, but that is it. Does anyone have any kind of advice??? Will
> these
> few items work??? When we submitted the I129F, we included many
> photos of us
> together, as we were told that would be sufficient. I'm just tired of
> the
> delays and want to get this moving along.
> Thanks so much in advance for your help....V

With an RFE, you can do 3 things:

1. Send more evidence of the type they are requesting, if you have it.

2. Re-send the evidence you previously sent, with a note saying this is
all you have, and to please approve based on this.

3. Send only a note asking that they approve the petition based on the
evidence you have previously sent.

The one thing you can't do is ignore the RFE.

I suppose including any receipts you can find that shows expenses paid
in Canada by the USC, or paid by the Canadian in the USA would be
helpful. At least it shows you both traveled back and forth. USCIS can
assume you saw each other during those times.

Best Wishes,
Rene
 
Old 12-21-2006, 06:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
Noorah101
 
Posts: 12637
Default Re: Request for evidence

> We just received a request for evidence today. Now the problem is
> that they
> want proof of us meeting within the last two years...prior to filing
> the
> petition. We live on the Cda/USA border and we don't have any travel
> itineraries or airline tickets...nothing. We commute back and forth.
> I
> never though to keep any kind of receipts. We do have some receipts
> showing
> that we bought my engagement ring in Canada, my fiance (I'm the
> Canadian)
> buys coal from Canada, as well as parts for equipment. We have
> receipts from
> those, but that is it. Does anyone have any kind of advice??? Will
> these
> few items work??? When we submitted the I129F, we included many
> photos of us
> together, as we were told that would be sufficient. I'm just tired of
> the
> delays and want to get this moving along.
> Thanks so much in advance for your help....V

I'm just curious who told you that photos only would be sufficient, and
what other delays you've been experiencing this early in the process?

Rene
 
Old 12-21-2006, 06:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
Dakota44
 
Posts: 239
Default Re: Request for evidence

> With an RFE, you can do 3 things:
>
> 1. Send more evidence of the type they are requesting, if you
> have it.
>
> 2. Re-send the evidence you previously sent, with a note saying this
> is all you have, and to please approve based on this.
>
> 3. Send only a note asking that they approve the petition based on
> the evidence you have previously sent.
>
> The one thing you can't do is ignore the RFE.
>
> I suppose including any receipts you can find that shows expenses paid
> in Canada by the USC, or paid by the Canadian in the USA would be
> helpful. At least it shows you both traveled back and forth. USCIS
> can assume you saw each other during those times.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Rene

One would think that sworn statements, notarized, from friends and
family verifying your time together..might be sufficient. American
friends and family might be preferrable from a "sworn statement" point
of view, given that the U.S. would have jurisdiction over them. Just a
thought. Someone else here might know better on that idea.
 
Old 12-21-2006, 07:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
Rete
 
Posts: 9736
Default Re: Request for evidence

> One would think that sworn statements, notarized, from friends and
> family verifying your time together..might be sufficient. American
> friends and family might be preferrable from a "sworn statement" point
> of view, given that the U.S. would have jurisdiction over them. Just
> a thought. Someone else here might know better on that idea.

They are usually a last ditch effort, if all else fails.

As Rene has mentioned, you can go with what you have and include a
letter stating the obvious. You are both border residents and as such
can easily drive across the border to visit one another without having
to get an I-94 and that you stay in each other's homes when together so
there is no need for a hotel bill, etc.

If any of the photos are from family gatherings, include them and
indicate who is who in the photograph and their relationship to one or
the other of you.

Look through your purse for any receipts for: gas, clothing,
restaurants, etc. from his area and he can look through his collection
of receipts for anything from your town. Receipts usually have the
name, address and date on them.

Good luck and it is not the end of the world, really. The next thing
you see one another start collecting new evidence. Save receipts, take
photos with a newspaper in from of you. Take pictures in front of well
known landmarks.
__________________
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
Vnoe
 
Posts: 3
Default Re: Request for evidence

Thanks...but the problem is we live in a very small community....no passports
were ever used. We actually don't even have passports right now, I'm in the
process of getting mine and I've been bugging him to get his. When we
submitted our I129F, we gave them numerous photographs of the two of us
together as well as family members (my kids and his)..... When we shopped I
bought in Canada and in the USA he paid. Does anyone know if they will
accept affidavits from people that know that we have been together for 1 1/2
years???
Thanks again..V

wrote:
>I would say that 2 credit card receipts showing that you each bought
>something in the same store 1 minute appart could be good enought.
>You may include a copy of your respective credit cards to show that teh
>two receipts are indeed yours.
>
>When you crossed the border together, have you by chance once both had
>your passport stamped ... that could could also be something to show
>that you travelled together ...
>
>Do you have any photo of the two of you that can reasonably appear to
>be taken in the past two years ...
>
>The more evidence, the better.
>
>> We just received a request for evidence today. Now the problem is that they
>> want proof of us meeting within the last two years...prior to filing the
>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> delays and want to get this moving along.
>> Thanks so much in advance for your help....V
 
Old 12-21-2006, 08:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
Noorah101
 
Posts: 12637
Default Re: Request for evidence

> Thanks...but the problem is we live in a very small community....no
> passports
> were ever used. We actually don't even have passports right now, I'm
> in the
> process of getting mine and I've been bugging him to get his. When we
> submitted our I129F, we gave them numerous photographs of the two of
> us
> together as well as family members (my kids and his)..... When we
> shopped I
> bought in Canada and in the USA he paid. Does anyone know if they
> will
> accept affidavits from people that know that we have been together for
> 1 1/2
> years???
> Thanks again..V
>
> wrote:
> >I would say that 2 credit card receipts showing that you each bought
> >something in the same store 1 minute appart could be good enought.
> >You may include a copy of your respective credit cards to show that
> >teh
> >two receipts are indeed yours.
> >When you crossed the border together, have you by chance once both
> >had
> >your passport stamped ... that could could also be something to show
> >that you travelled together ...
> >Do you have any photo of the two of you that can reasonably appear to
> >be taken in the past two years ...
> >The more evidence, the better.
> >> We just received a request for evidence today. Now the problem is
> >> that they
> >> want proof of us meeting within the last two years...prior to
> >> filing the
> >[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> >> delays and want to get this moving along.
> >> Thanks so much in advance for your help....V

It's worth a try. All you can do is submit more evidence (including
affidavits) and see if they accept it. Include a statement describing
your situation, detailing the fact that you are traveling by car across
the Canadian border and living in small towns, therefore are lacking
proof of travel.

Rene
 
Old 12-21-2006, 08:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
Ian-Mstm
 
Posts: 6030
Default Re: Request for evidence

> Thanks...but the problem is we live in a very small community....no
> passports
> were ever used. We actually don't even have passports right now, I'm
> in the
> process of getting mine and I've been bugging him to get his. When we
> submitted our I129F, we gave them numerous photographs of the two of
> us
> together as well as family members (my kids and his)..... When we
> shopped I
> bought in Canada and in the USA he paid. Does anyone know if they
> will
> accept affidavits from people that know that we have been together for
> 1 1/2
> years???
> Thanks again..V
>
> wrote:
> >I would say that 2 credit card receipts showing that you each bought
> >something in the same store 1 minute appart could be good enought.
> >You may include a copy of your respective credit cards to show that
> >teh
> >two receipts are indeed yours.
> >When you crossed the border together, have you by chance once both
> >had
> >your passport stamped ... that could could also be something to show
> >that you travelled together ...
> >Do you have any photo of the two of you that can reasonably appear to
> >be taken in the past two years ...
> >The more evidence, the better.
> >> We just received a request for evidence today. Now the problem is
> >> that they
> >> want proof of us meeting within the last two years...prior to
> >> filing the
> >[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> >> delays and want to get this moving along.
> >> Thanks so much in advance for your help....V

Why is this an issue? A single photo of the two of you holding a recent
copy of "USA Today" will solve the "problem". I can't believe you didn't
think of something like this yourself.



Why is everything a problem for you? If you think this is all just a
burden, you're doomed before you start. I'm sorry, but it seems as
though everything for you is just a lame excuse!

Ian
 
Old 12-21-2006, 09:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
Vnoe
 
Posts: 3
Default Re: Request for evidence

Hi Rene,
When we first starting filing out all the ppwk in August we phone the 800# to
find out exactly what we needed to prove we had met in person prior to that
time. The person (agent) told us that we could send in photos of the 2 of us
together...so I sent in about 10 in different situations. Oh well....I won't
ignore the RFE. Our other delay has been that the website had told us that
the letter was sent Oct 11..we called 5 times on this and we still never
received anything. Finally yesterday when we called we were helped by the
most wonderful and helpful person...she found out our case numbers had been
mixed up...and then she got that mess fixed up and now we are working on what
we need.
It is truly hard when we live on the border to get the requested info...but
we will go with what we have. About 1/2 my relatives (aunts/uncles/cousins)
are USC, so I would not have a problem getting help from them.
****Thanks to everyone for the replies*****
V

Noorah101 wrote:
>> We just received a request for evidence today. Now the problem is
>> that they
>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> delays and want to get this moving along.
>> Thanks so much in advance for your help....V
>
>I'm just curious who told you that photos only would be sufficient, and
>what other delays you've been experiencing this early in the process?
>
>Rene
 
 


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