Lalah

I was recently refused entry on the VWP and deported from the US when
they found out that I had overstayed previously. They have written the
following on my passport: 212(a)(7)(A)(i)(I) + (9)(B)(i)

They said I could apply for another visa from the embassy and that I
just won't be allowed in again on the VWP. I am also only a few months
away from receiving a permanent immigration number as a member of my
family had sponsored me many years ago and this application is near to
completion.

I read in another post that having 212(a) on your passport means that
you will never again be accepted for a visa. Does anyone know if they
were lying to me? I know they lied when they said they were sending me
to a nice comfy bed for the night while waiting for my flight home and
they actually shackled me and imprisoned me for the night! hmy:

Poppy girl

> I was recently refused entry on the VWP and deported from the US when
> they found out that I had overstayed previously. They have written
> the following on my passport: 212(a)(7)(A)(i)(I) + (9)(B)(i)
>
> They said I could apply for another visa from the embassy and that I
> just won't be allowed in again on the VWP. I am also only a few
> months away from receiving a permanent immigration number as a member
> of my family had sponsored me many years ago and this application is
> near to completion.
>
> I read in another post that having 212(a) on your passport means that
> you will never again be accepted for a visa. Does anyone know if they
> were lying to me? I know they lied when they said they were sending
> me to a nice comfy bed for the night while waiting for my flight home
> and they actually shackled me and imprisoned me for the night! hmy:

Well I do know that if you over stay on the VWP and try and return then
this is what happens! having said that I have heard of other folk that
have been aload back in on another Visa actually a friend of mine was
deported 6 years ago and she married an American and was let back in.
I have no idea if this will affect the permanent residence status for
you but I don't think it will do you any favours.
I am sure others will be able to help out more.

Oh how long did you overstay for?

Lalah

> Well I do know that if you over stay on the VWP and try and return
> then this is what happens! having said that I have heard of other folk
> that have been aload back in on another Visa actually a friend of mine
> was deported 6 years ago and she married an American and was let back
> in.
> I have no idea if this will affect the permanent residence status for
> you but I don't think it will do you any favours.
> I am sure others will be able to help out more.
>
> Oh how long did you overstay for?

7 months

Poppy girl

> 7 months

Yep thats a definate ban I cannot recall how long for but its a few
years and you can never get another one VWP again to my knowledge.

Elvira

> 7 months

3 year ban...

Joe Feise

lalah wrote on 09/02/07 16:47:

> I was recently refused entry on the VWP and deported from the US when
> they found out that I had overstayed previously. They have written the
> following on my passport: 212(a)(7)(A)(i)(I) + (9)(B)(i)


These are sections of the Immigration law.
INA 212(a)(7) deals with documentation requirements.
INA 212(a)(9), however, is way more serious. And I think you are not telling the
whole story...
INA 212(a)(9)(B) is about people who overstayed for more than 180 days.
If you overstayed for over 180 days, but less than a year, you are banned from
entry for 3 years.
If you overstayed for a year or more, you are banned for 10 years.
You can't even get an immigrant visa during this time.

-Joe

Ian-Mstm

> I was recently refused entry on the VWP and deported from the US when
> they found out that I had overstayed previously. They have written
> the following on my passport: 212(a)(7)(A)(i)(I) + (9)(B)(i)
>
> They said I could apply for another visa from the embassy and that I
> just won't be allowed in again on the VWP. I am also only a few
> months away from receiving a permanent immigration number as a member
> of my family had sponsored me many years ago and this application is
> near to completion.
>
> I read in another post that having 212(a) on your passport means that
> you will never again be accepted for a visa. Does anyone know if they
> were lying to me? I know they lied when they said they were sending
> me to a nice comfy bed for the night while waiting for my flight home
> and they actually shackled me and imprisoned me for the night! hmy:

The (9)(B)(i) is a notation indicating that you *have* accumulated time
towards a 3-year ban from the US. It's possible, even if you get a visa
number through your family member, that you will not be allowed to use
it until you have fulfilled the 3-year ban. Unfortunately, this is what
happens when you screw around with US immigration law. I suggest you
contact an immigration attorney... you really do need one!


Well, if they told you that you were going to jail, you might have put
up a fight. It seems they took the path of least resistance.

Ian

Lalah

> lalah wrote on 09/02/07 16:47:
>
> > I was recently refused entry on the VWP and deported from the US
> > when
> > they found out that I had overstayed previously. They have written
> > the
> > following on my passport: 212(a)(7)(A)(i)(I) + (9)(B)(i)
>
>
> These are sections of the Immigration law.
> INA 212(a)(7) deals with documentation requirements.
> INA 212(a)(9), however, is way more serious. And I think you are not
> telling the
> whole story...
> INA 212(a)(9)(B) is about people who overstayed for more than 180
> days.
> If you overstayed for over 180 days, but less than a year, you are
> banned from
> entry for 3 years.
> If you overstayed for a year or more, you are banned for 10 years.
> You can't even get an immigrant visa during this time.
>
> -Joe
> --
> I am not a lawyer.
> For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.

Not sure what you mean here about the whole story.

On further searching ..

212(a)(9)(i)(I) is a 3 year ban and 212(a)(9)(i)(II) is a 10 year ban,
but I only got 212(a)(9)(i) with neither (I) or (II) on
the end. 212(a)(9)(i) apparently means generally being
unlawfully present. The officer told my sister on the
phone that I would get a waiver from a ban. I'm not
sure if she was lying to us or not but I expect an
immigration lawyer would be able to clarify.

Sapphyre

On Sep 2, 8:51 pm, Elvira <member35...@nomx.britishexpats.com> wrote:
> > 7 months
>
> 3 year ban...

The important question now, is when did the OP leave the US? That's
when the three year bar starts from, not the date she attempts to re-
use the VWP after an overstay and bar.

If she overstayed 2 1/2 years ago, she could possibly be eligible to
immigrate when her visa number becomes available. If she left last
month then tried to return a week later, tsk tsk.

S.

Joe Feise

lalah wrote on 09/02/07 18:53:

>> lalah wrote on 09/02/07 16:47:
>>
>>> I was recently refused entry on the VWP and deported from the US
>>> when
>>> they found out that I had overstayed previously. They have written
>>> the
>>> following on my passport: 212(a)(7)(A)(i)(I) + (9)(B)(i)
>>
>> These are sections of the Immigration law.
>> INA 212(a)(7) deals with documentation requirements.
>> INA 212(a)(9), however, is way more serious. And I think you are not
>> telling the
>> whole story...
>> INA 212(a)(9)(B) is about people who overstayed for more than 180
>> days.
>> If you overstayed for over 180 days, but less than a year, you are
>> banned from
>> entry for 3 years.
>> If you overstayed for a year or more, you are banned for 10 years.
>> You can't even get an immigrant visa during this time.
>>
>> -Joe
>> --
>> I am not a lawyer.
>> For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>
> Not sure what you mean here about the whole story.


How long you overstayed.

> On further searching ..


Forget it. You already said 7 months in another post, and that's a 3 year ban.
No waiver. Period. End of story.