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Old 03-05-2004, 01:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
Umgoblue
 
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Fiance birth certificate needed?
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Do I need to send in my foreign Fiance's birth certificate
with my K1 I-129F application? I would do this in an instant but it
delays things because it will take 2 weeks to get, then has to be
translated, then has to be notarized. And since its not officially
required I just thought to ask if others were including this?

Thanks!

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Old 03-05-2004, 01:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
Jeffreyhy
 
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um,

Enough people have recieved RFEs (Requests for Evidence) for the
alien fiance(e)'s birth certificate that is a good idea to include it.


A translation is required, but what gives you the idea that it has to
be notarized?

Regards, JEff

Originally posted by umgoblue

    > Fiance birth certificate needed?
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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    > Do I need to send in my foreign Fiance's birth
certificate with my K1 I-129F application? I would do this in an
instant but it delays things because it will take 2 weeks to get, then
has to be translated, then has to be notarized. And since its not
officially required I just thought to ask if others were including
this?
    >
Thanks!

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Old 03-05-2004, 02:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
Janadeen
 
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Default Re: Fiance birth certificate needed?

Agreed - hind sight is ALWAYS 20/20 and you'll kick yourself if you get
an RFE for it - it's worth the 2 week delay now, rather than a 30 day or
more an RFE might cause.

A suggestion - get multiple copies of your
foreign fiance's birth cert - you'll need them down the line for various
other bureacratic processes that are to come when your fiancee arrives
the U.S.

Best of luck!



Originally posted by jeffreyhy

    > um,
    >
    > Enough people have recieved RFEs (Requests for Evidence) for
the alien fiance(e)'s birth certificate that is a good idea to include
it.
    >
    > A translation is required, but what gives you the idea that it
has to be notarized?
    >
Regards, JEff

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Old 03-05-2004, 02:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
Soyonszen
 
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Default Re: Fiance birth certificate needed?

I don’t think it says anywhere (in the USCIS site) that you need a copy
of your foreign fiance’s birth certificate? But I did read a few posts
where people were getting RFEd for it.
I did not include that in my I-
129F packet, going thru Nebraska Service Center, and it went through
fine.
If you can get it easily, do it (translated into English) (if you
can’t, I don’t think you need to worry about it).
Good luck :)


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~ K-1 Timeline ~
NOA1 = 07-24-03 [NSC]
NOA2 = 01-20-04 [180 days from
NOA1]
NVC letter received = 01-30-04
Packet#3 received = 02-05-04
DS-
2001 checklist mailed = 02-20-04

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Old 03-05-2004, 03:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
Umgoblue
 
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Default Re: Fiance birth certificate needed?

I wonder in the cases that were RFE'd, what country the fiance was from?
And also, I wonder if maybe they didn't have a passport. In my case, my
fiance is from China and does have a passport which we are including a
full copy of, so I just wish to know if we need to wait 2 weeks for her
to get an officially translated and certified copy of her birth
certificate as well, seems unfair since its not listed as a requirement.


Thanks!


Originally posted by soyonszen
    > I don’t
think it says anywhere (in the USCIS site) that you need a copy of your
foreign fiance’s birth certificate? But I did read a few posts where
people were getting RFEd for it.
    > I did not include that in my I-129F
packet, going thru Nebraska Service Center, and it went through fine.
If you can get it easily, do it (translated into English) (if you can’t,
I don’t think you need to worry about it).
    > Good luck :)
    >
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------

    > ~ K-1 Timeline ~
    > NOA1 = 07-24-03 [NSC]
    > NOA2 = 01-20-04 [180 days
from NOA1]
    > NVC letter received = 01-30-04
    > Packet#3 received = 02-05-
04
DS-2001 checklist mailed = 02-20-04

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Old 03-05-2004, 03:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
Jeffreyhy
 
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Default Re: Fiance birth certificate needed?

um,

At the I-129f-stage of the immigration process the alien
fiance(e) does not need a passport and the USCIS would have no way of
knowing whether or not they did. The I-129f does not ask for a copy
of the beneficiary's passport and, unlike the birth certificate issue,
I have never heard of a person receiving an RFE for a copy of the
beneficiary's passport.

My impression is that the RFEs for a copy of
the beneficiary's birth certificate come from the CSC, and not every
petitioner gets such an RFE. But, enough get them that 1 immigration
attorney who participates on this board has advised us that he
routinely inlcudes the beneficiary's birth certificate in the filing.


Whatever the reason that the CSC sometimes asks for the
beneficiary's birth certificate, maybe the copy of the passport would
provide them with the same information? I don't think anyone really
knows why the birth certificate is sometimes requested.

Regards, JEff




Originally posted by umgoblue
    > I wonder in the
cases that were RFE'd, what country the fiance was from? And also, I
wonder if maybe they didn't have a passport. In my case, my fiance is
from China and does have a passport which we are including a full copy
of, so I just wish to know if we need to wait 2 weeks for her to get
an officially translated and certified copy of her birth certificate
as well, seems unfair since its not listed as a requirement.

Thanks!

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Old 03-05-2004, 03:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
Sunflwrgrl13
 
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I agree with other replies here. My fiance is from the UK, and we went
through the Texas Serv Center, so I don't know what difference that
makes.

We did not include copies of his passport or his birth
certificate and we got approved w/no problem. We just made copies of
boarding passes proving we had been to visit each other. I included my
birth certificate and copies of stamps in my passport proving I had been
to the UK. I did not get copies of the boarding passes or my passport
notarized.

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Old 03-05-2004, 03:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
WiAnSiempre
 
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Originally posted by umgoblue
    > Fiance birth certificate
needed?
    > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
    > Do I need to send in my foreign Fiance's birth certificate
with my K1 I-129F application? I would do this in an instant but it
delays things because it will take 2 weeks to get, then has to be
translated, then has to be notarized. And since its not officially
required I just thought to ask if others were including this?
    >
Thanks!

We were just recently approved for a K-1 Visa
petition through TSC and I did NOT include a copy of my fiance's birth
certificate nor his passport.

Good Luck,
Angela

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Old 03-05-2004, 03:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
SecretGarden
 
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Hi,
We went through Nebraska and I *DID* include certified copies of
both the birth certificate and passports for both of us. We had both
been married before and I also included copies of our respective
marriage licenses for the first marriages as well as the divorce decrees
for both of us. (I know they don't ask for the license, but I didn't
want anyone wondering if the first marriages were valid in the first
place!) Call me "Queen of Overkill" but it worked, no RFE.

    :)


~SecretGarden

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Old 03-05-2004, 05:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
Hypertweeky
 
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Originally posted by WiAnSiempre
    > We were just recently
approved for a K-1 Visa petition through TSC and I did NOT include a
copy of my fiance's birth certificate nor his passport.
    >
    > Good
Luck,
    > Angela


Hey everyone!!

My lawyer submitted my Birth
certificate with a translation when he filed our I-130:), But we are
talking about I-129's so It is different:):)
It is Friday!!
wooo!!:D:D,sorry about that:)

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