Tmushen

Well I have given up on Missouri and being that we received an RFE from
Vermont on 11/19 I am more hopefully that the I130 will be approved
before the I129F because Missouri is too good to even respond to status
inquiries from Congressional reps as well.



130 days for something that probably takes 5 days in total. It's great
to know that out tax dollars are wasted on people who work at these
centers. I am tired of hearing how RFE's stop the process. My process
should have been stopped for a total of 9 days which is the time they
issued the RFE to the time my status online changed to them receiving
my response. I can't stand how it takes 4 weeks for the file to get
from the mail room back to the Immigration officer. This is absolute
BS. Maybe the immigration officer who handles RFE's took the holidays
off as that wouldn't surprise.



I guess everyone could see from my last 2 posts I am very angry at this
whole process. I wouldn't mind if I see people with other RFE's finally
getting approved but none of us are getting approved while people with
receipt dates almost 50 days after us are getting approved. Some one
explain the logic in that to me. I receive an RFE and the turn around
by me and wife is 9 days but MSC/NBC now has moved 50 days past our
receipt date without an approval for us or anyone else who received an
RFE right around the time we did.

Lpdiver

Out of curiosity what was your RFE for?





Originally posted by tmushen

    > Well I have given up on Missouri and being that we received an RFE
    > from Vermont on 11/19 I am more hopefully that the I130 will be
    > approved before the I129F because Missouri is too good to even respond
    > to status inquiries from Congressional reps as well.


    > 130 days for something that probably takes 5 days in total. It's
    > great to know that out tax dollars are wasted on people who work at
    > these centers. I am tired of hearing how RFE's stop the process. My
    > process should have been stopped for a total of 9 days which is the
    > time they issued the RFE to the time my status online changed to them
    > receiving my response. I can't stand how it takes 4 weeks for the
    > file to get from the mail room back to the Immigration officer. This
    > is absolute BS. Maybe the immigration officer who handles RFE's took
    > the holidays off as that wouldn't surprise.


I guess everyone could see from my last 2 posts I am very angry at this
whole process. I wouldn't mind if I see people with other RFE's finally
getting approved but none of us are getting approved while people with
receipt dates almost 50 days after us are getting approved. Some one
explain the logic in that to me. I receive an RFE and the turn around
by me and wife is 9 days but MSC/NBC now has moved 50 days past our
receipt date without an approval for us or anyone else who received an
RFE right around the time we did.

Tmushen

Originally posted by lpdiver

    > Out of curiosity what was your RFE for?



G325-A for both of us which I sent 100%.



I am trying to figure if they lost these forms on purpose because maybe
I call too much. Who knows but I love when I call and these operators
get annoyed and say you know you check all this on the internet. Well
excuse me for missing my wife and hoping that by some miracle that if I
called in the person on the other line would tell me something different
than what is on the internet.

Lpdiver

Sorry you are having the problems it can be frustrating. Did they lose
them alltogether or just not have signatures?





Originally posted by tmushen

    > G325-A for both of us which I sent 100%.


I am trying to figure if they lost these forms on purpose because maybe
I call too much. Who knows but I love when I call and these operators
get annoyed and say you know you check all this on the internet. Well
excuse me for missing my wife and hoping that by some miracle that if I
called in the person on the other line would tell me something different
than what is on the internet.

Matthew Udall

Originally posted by tmushen

    > Well excuse me for missing my wife and hoping that by some miracle
    > that if I called in the person on the other line would tell me
    > something different than what is on the internet.



I've asked about this at the CSC before. The operators "at the CSC" can
see the same information you can see on the on-line page, however in
addition they can also see when a case has been shipped away from the
service center, and the place it was sent.



Other than that, what they see is what you can see yourself by logging
on to the USCIS' site.

Tmushen

Originally posted by lpdiver

    > Sorry you are having the problems it can be frustrating. Did they lose
    > them alltogether or just not have signatures?



How would I determine this as the RFE has a checklist and the thing
checked off says: Please sumbit a completed and signed Form G-325A for
Petitioner and Spouse. At the bottom of the page it also has a check
box for Other and that also says: Both the Petitioner and spouse must
complete and sign Form 325-A.



So I am not sure if it's lost or not but I know we sent in original
signatures and not copies. The funny thing is we got the same RFE for
the I130 and I129F. I am 99% percent sure we sent originals but the
lawyer obviously was the one who sealed the package.



Any way you would think that once they received the forms again it
shouldn't take this long. Vermont says to give them at least 14 days to
process the forms and because I have more faith in them my 14th day
would be 12/17 as they updated the online status for that RFE as
received on 12/3. Thus I check that more often becase Vermont at least
seems to have a heart beat when it comes to RFE's.

Lpdiver

I think I would be particularly perturbed were I in your shoes. I
didn't realize until now that you were using an attorney. So if I
understand correctly your attorney submitted a G-325 for the I-130 and
you got a RFE. He apparently didn't learn from his mistake and did the
same thing on the I-129f application. And he still has not gotten an
explaination for you. I think you deserve an answer and I think your
attorney should get it for you. Maybe it's the not his fault but you do
deserve some answers.





Originally posted by tmushen

    > How would I determine this as the RFE has a checklist and the thing
    > checked off says: Please sumbit a completed and signed Form G-325A for
    > Petitioner and Spouse. At the bottom of the page it also has a check
    > box for Other and that also says: Both the Petitioner and spouse must
    > complete and sign Form 325-A.


    > So I am not sure if it's lost or not but I know we sent in original
    > signatures and not copies. The funny thing is we got the same RFE for
    > the I130 and I129F. I am 99% percent sure we sent originals but the
    > lawyer obviously was the one who sealed the package.


Any way you would think that once they received the forms again it
shouldn't take this long. Vermont says to give them at least 14 days to
process the forms and because I have more faith in them my 14th day
would be 12/17 as they updated the online status for that RFE as
received on 12/3. Thus I check that more often becase Vermont at least
seems to have a heart beat when it comes to RFE's.

Tmushen

Originally posted by lpdiver

    > I think I would be particularly perturbed were I in your shoes. I
    > didn't realize until now that you were using an attorney. So if I
    > understand correctly your attorney submitted a G-325 for the I-130 and
    > you got a RFE. He apparently didn't learn from his mistake and did the
    > same thing on the I-129f application. And he still has not gotten an
    > explaination for you. I think you deserve an answer and I think your
    > attorney should get it for you. Maybe it's the not his fault but you
    > do deserve some answers.



I actually got the RFE for the I129F first on 11/10 and returned the
forms on 11/18 and it showed online as received on 11/19. I received
the I130 RFE on 11/19 and returned the documents on 11/26 and they
showed received on 12/3. The lawyer has written several letters stating
that the forms where included in the original package and that there are
children involved. Thank god we were smart enough to let them start
school in Turkey in the month of September. If it was just me and my
wife I could be more patient but everyday I get more mad because these
people don't understand or care that the children one don't understand
why they can't come back yet (Not to mention that they are both US
Citizens already) and two knowing they eventually will come back and
expected to come back already do you know how hard it is for them to go
to school in Turkey when they want to be in school in America.
Additionally Missouri has not answered one letter from my lawyer.
Matthew if your out there is this normal not to receive a response to a
written letter? My first status inquiry also was not answered.

Lpdiver

All I can say is hang in there. I don't know the fact here but it
apears that you don't have the experience of an experienced
immigration attorney. At this point I guess I'd just let go let it go.
I did think from one of the postings in this group that one of the
advantages of using an attorney was that they had phone lines
available to them that the general public could not use. Bottom line:
It won't help your case at this point other than to learn if maybe you
have an inexperienced attorney.





Originally posted by tmushen

I actually got the RFE for the I129F first on 11/10 and returned the
forms on 11/18 and it showed online as received on 11/19. I received
the I130 RFE on 11/19 and returned the documents on 11/26 and they
showed received on 12/3. The lawyer has written several letters stating
that the forms where included in the original package and that there are
children involved. Thank god we were smart enough to let them start
school in Turkey in the month of September. If it was just me and my
wife I could be more patient but everyday I get more mad because these
people don't understand or care that the children one don't understand
why they can't come back yet (Not to mention that they are both US
Citizens already) and two knowing they eventually will come back and
expected to come back already do you know how hard it is for them to go
to school in Turkey when they want to be in school in America.
Additionally Missouri has not answered one letter from my lawyer.
Matthew if your out there is this normal not to receive a response to a
written letter? My first status inquiry also was not answered.

Matthew Udall

Originally posted by tmushen

    > Additionally Missouri has not answered one letter from my lawyer.
    > Matthew if your out there is this normal not to receive a response to
    > a written letter? My first status inquiry also was not answered.
    >



I’m here. From the experiences I have in sending written communication
to a Service Center or District Office, most of the time the
communication is only one-way.



I send my letter informing them of a problem, they get it and take care
of the problem without having to reply to my letter. Of course, I’ve
also had them “call� me in reply to a letter or fax sent to them, and I
have received written replies from them before, however that is not the
typical situation. The “typical� situation is where I send letter/fax
and the problem is solved with no written reply from them.



In your RFE context, I doubt your attorney will receive any written
reply (although he might). Not to minimize your concerns, but I’m not
sure what it is that they would tell you in a reply that you don’t
already know. They have received your RFE materials and will be
processing your case as soon as they can. True, it would be “nice� to
receive a written reply, however I don’t think they have time to do that
and again, all they could really tell you is that they have received
your RFE reply and they will be processing the case as soon as they can…
two things you already know.