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Old 06-09-2004, 05:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
Daniel W.
 
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I wrote my citizenship test two weeks ago. Now I have received a mail from
the CIC asking me to fill up "Residence Questionnaire" forms and also asked
me to send them copies of all the pages of my current and previous passport
and any other residency related proof.

Is this normal to ask for these after writing citizenship test?

I have spend 21 days in one trip out of Canada to travel back home. I
applied for citizenship after completing 1101 days in Canada excluding those
21 days of absence. Those 21 days were mentioned in my Citizenship
application. But while I was filling up this form (CIT 0171), I just
remembered that there were 3 days short trip to USA which I forgot to
mention on the original citizenship application forms. This is for the fact
that I used exit entry stamps on my passport to calculate and report my
absence from Canada. Those three days that I spent outside of Canada does
not have any exit/entry record on my passport. Now, I am wondering whether I
should report those three days of absence on these forms. Even without those
three days I do fulfil citizenship residency requirement as I already added
6 days more than needed.

Now the question is should I report those three days on this CIT 0171 form?
What could be the outcome of this mismatch with the original application?
What kind of trouble might I face if I don't report them at this stage?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Old 06-09-2004, 06:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
Stuart Brook
 
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Daniel W. wrote:
    > I wrote my citizenship test two weeks ago. Now I have received a mail from
    > the CIC asking me to fill up "Residence Questionnaire" forms and also asked
    > me to send them copies of all the pages of my current and previous passport
    > and any other residency related proof.
    >
    > Is this normal to ask for these after writing citizenship test?
    >
    > I have spend 21 days in one trip out of Canada to travel back home. I
    > applied for citizenship after completing 1101 days in Canada excluding those
    > 21 days of absence. Those 21 days were mentioned in my Citizenship
    > application. But while I was filling up this form (CIT 0171), I just
    > remembered that there were 3 days short trip to USA which I forgot to
    > mention on the original citizenship application forms. This is for the fact
    > that I used exit entry stamps on my passport to calculate and report my
    > absence from Canada. Those three days that I spent outside of Canada does
    > not have any exit/entry record on my passport. Now, I am wondering whether I
    > should report those three days of absence on these forms. Even without those
    > three days I do fulfil citizenship residency requirement as I already added
    > 6 days more than needed.
    >
    > Now the question is should I report those three days on this CIT 0171 form?
    > What could be the outcome of this mismatch with the original application?
    > What kind of trouble might I face if I don't report them at this stage?
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your help


Disclosure is always better than non-disclosure ... which can suggest
fraud as opposed to a mistake.

Remember that the day you return to Canada is counted.
 
Old 06-10-2004, 03:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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in a recent article, Daniel W. () said:

    > I wrote my citizenship test two weeks ago. Now I have received a mail from
    > the CIC asking me to fill up "Residence Questionnaire" forms and also asked
    > me to send them copies of all the pages of my current and previous passport
    > and any other residency related proof.
    >
    > Is this normal to ask for these after writing citizenship test?

It may be a random check, it may be something was brought to their
attention on your application. However, this sort of thing does happen.


    > I have spend 21 days in one trip out of Canada to travel back home. I
    > applied for citizenship after completing 1101 days in Canada excluding those
    > 21 days of absence.

Personally, I think you applied too early. People who apply AS SOON AS
they are 'eligible' are prone to experience delays or mistakes. Case in
point is your current situation...you're now remembering other days of
absence. You certainly should report all absences on the form. Failure to
be honest could result in even further delays. It's hindsight now of
course, but if you had waited a few weeks or a month (or even longer) you
likely wouldn't be experiencing this now.

Good luck with your application.
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Old 06-10-2004, 06:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
Daniel W.
 
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"Stuart Brook" <> wrote in
    > Disclosure is always better than non-disclosure ... which can suggest
    > fraud as opposed to a mistake.
    > Remember that the day you return to Canada is counted.

Thanks Stuart. Are you aware of any special form or procedure to declare
these kind or errors other than just filling up CIT 0171 form?

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Old 06-10-2004, 06:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
Daniel W.
 
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"http://www.iamnotamerican.com" <newsgroup@iam_not_american.com> wrote in

    > Personally, I think you applied too early. People who apply AS SOON
    > AS they are 'eligible' are prone to experience delays or mistakes. Case
    > in point is your current situation...you're now remembering other days of
    > absence. You certainly should report all absences on the form. Failure
    > to be honest could result in even further delays. It's hindsight now of
    > course, but if you had waited a few weeks or a month (or even longer) you
    > likely wouldn't be experiencing this now.
    > Good luck with your application.

Actually my problem is not shortage of required days to meet residency
requirement. As I said in my OP, I have put some room for those unforseen
errors. If I report those 3 days absence now, I'll still be able to meet the
residency requirement. My real issue is what would be better way to handle
this mismatch with my original application.

Thanks for your reply.

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Old 06-10-2004, 07:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
John
 
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Cmon Daniel, people spent whole year in US and never mentioned it and got
Citizenship..(i.e, b4 when it wasn't required to take US visa). So just
relax, if you dont have stamps in passport, who's gonna know
"Daniel W." <> wrote in message
news:sZSxc.39982$...
    > "http://www.iamnotamerican.com" <newsgroup@iam_not_american.com> wrote in
    > > Personally, I think you applied too early. People who apply AS SOON
    > > AS they are 'eligible' are prone to experience delays or mistakes. Case
    > > in point is your current situation...you're now remembering other days
of
    > > absence. You certainly should report all absences on the form. Failure
    > > to be honest could result in even further delays. It's hindsight now of
    > > course, but if you had waited a few weeks or a month (or even longer)
you
    > > likely wouldn't be experiencing this now.
    > >
    > > Good luck with your application.
    > Actually my problem is not shortage of required days to meet residency
    > requirement. As I said in my OP, I have put some room for those unforseen
    > errors. If I report those 3 days absence now, I'll still be able to meet
the
    > residency requirement. My real issue is what would be better way to handle
    > this mismatch with my original application.
    > Thanks for your reply.
    > --
 
Old 06-11-2004, 12:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
Stuart Brook
 
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John wrote:

    > Cmon Daniel, people spent whole year in US and never mentioned it and got
    > Citizenship..(i.e, b4 when it wasn't required to take US visa). So just
    > relax, if you dont have stamps in passport, who's gonna know

And if CIC decides to audit your time, then it matters, because omission
is FRAUD. And if they find fraud, not only do you lose your chance at
citizenship, you could lose your PR as well. There were times in the
past when CIC didn't do a lot of things, but since the push from the US
since Sept 11, and the desires of the Canadian people to uphold the laws
of the land, that's changing. People ARE being scrutinized more closely
once more.

So advice like this is just plain stupid.
 
 


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