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Old 11-30-2006, 11:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
Ian-Mstm
 
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> Oh! I didn't realize that. Never mind what I said, then...I'm not
> sure at all. I thought one could travel on the US passport anywhere.
>
> Rene

This is posted at www.amcits.com: "If you are a dual U.S.-Canadian
citizen you should always present yourself as a Canadian citizen when
entering Canada and as a U.S. citizen when entering the United States."

I guess the question is whether or not you are obligated to present
yourself as a Canadian when entering Canada. As yet, I can't find
anything definitive on any Canadian government site.

Ian
 

Old 12-01-2006, 12:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
Meauxna
 
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> This is posted at www.amcits.com: "If you are a dual U.S.-Canadian
> citizen you should always present yourself as a Canadian citizen when
> entering Canada and as a U.S. citizen when entering the United
> States."
>
> I guess the question is whether or not you are obligated to present
> yourself as a Canadian when entering Canada. As yet, I can't find
> anything definitive on any Canadian government site.
>
> Ian

That is a US gov't website tho. That is a US rule, too. I'm not 100%
convinced that a UKC must use the UK passport to enter the UK (altho
they get a longer period of admission than they would with their US
pport).
I know my Can/US mother has entered Canada with her US passport
without issue.

I guess the answer (at least for the UK part) would be to read Rich
Wales' excellent Dual Citizenship FAQ at http://www.richw.org/dualcit/

Or, the most conservative, research-free answer: only enter each country
with its matching passport. And always for the US.
 
Old 12-01-2006, 12:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
sgallagher
 
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The answer is, it depends on what the laws of "country X" require.
When country X is the USA and the person holds US citizenship, then
yes, he is required by the US to enter on a US passport, and not a
non-US passport.

But other countries do not always require dual citizens to use that
country's passport, if they have another legal means to enter the
country. British citizens, for example, who also hold another
country's passport are able to enter the UK with their non-British
passport, as long as they can prove that they are allowed to enter the
UK for their stated purpose. By that I mean, if a dual British/US
citizen entered Britain on a US passport, and he tells the immigration
inspector that he is visiting, then he wouldn't be questioned.
Alternatively, if he said that he was coming to Britain to live, study,
work, or do anything else that would normallly require a US citizen to
have some formal permission from the British government, they would not
simply take his word that he was also a British citizen.


>
> Or, can I fly to Canada using my US passport once I naturalize?

Canada has no absolute requirement that dual citizen Canadians use a
Canadian passport to enter Canada. It is preferred that they present
proof of their Canadian citizenship when entering, and they would have
to be able to prove it if they said they were coming to Canada to live
or work. So, travellers with US and Canadian citizenship could use a
US passport for the entire trip, as long as the purpose and length of
his trip that he explained to the entry inspector was one that was
allowed by US citizens. A person in this scenario could also use his
US passport to board the aircraft and then present a Certificate of
Canadian Citizenship (Citizenship Card) at the Canadian port of entry.
 
Old 12-01-2006, 12:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
sgallagher
 
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FlyergirlUK wrote:
> > Oh! I didn't realize that. Never mind what I said, then...I'm not
> > sure at all. I thought one could travel on the US passport anywhere.
> >
> > Rene
>
> Strange then, if that is not possible, that my dual-cit. son entered the
> UK using his US passport on his first trip over here with no
> repercussions.

And that's because Britain does not absolutely require British passport
holders to use a British passport when entering the UK, if they also
hold another passport which allows them to enter for the purpose they
request.


> When we moved here for good, however, his UK passport was used.

True, because that passport shows that he holds right of abode in the
UK and is entitled to live there without restriction. Britain will
also place a certificate of entitlement to right of abode in the UK,
into the non-British passport of someone holding right of abode, as an
alternative.
 
Old 12-01-2006, 01:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
Pianoplayer
 
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> Oh! I didn't realize that. Never mind what I said, then...I'm not
> sure at all. I thought one could travel on the US passport anywhere.
>
> Rene

Many countries do require their dual citizens to enter on the passport
of that country. My parents' neighbor in Australia is a dual
British/Australian citizen. She is always required to enter Australia on
her Australian passport. I don't know whether the UK requires that, i.e.
whether she would be able to enter the UK on her Australian passport,
also being a UK citizen.
 
Old 12-01-2006, 09:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
_Mh_
 
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In article <>,
<> wrote:

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>> Or, can I fly to Canada using my US passport once I naturalize?
>
>Canada has no absolute requirement that dual citizen Canadians use a
>Canadian passport to enter Canada. It is preferred that they present
>proof of their Canadian citizenship when entering, and they would have
>to be able to prove it if they said they were coming to Canada to live
>or work. So, travellers with US and Canadian citizenship could use a
>US passport for the entire trip, as long as the purpose and length of
>his trip that he explained to the entry inspector was one that was
>allowed by US citizens. A person in this scenario could also use his
>US passport to board the aircraft and then present a Certificate of
>Canadian Citizenship (Citizenship Card) at the Canadian port of entry.

Sounds good! No need to constantly renew Canadian passports while living in
the US.. (since I'll have to keep updating my US passport once I get it..)

MH
 
 


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