Jaj

As an Australian citizen travelling into and out of Australia, you must
generally show an Australian passport to DIMIA officers.

What passport
you use in other countries is up to you. The UK allows dual
British/Australian citizens to use either passport, but if you use an
Australian passport you normally need to use the 'non-EEA' channel and
if you plan to do anything other than visit you should have other
evidence of your British citizenship.

In third countries, use the same
passport to exit as you used to enter.
Never show two passports to
immigration officials (unless asked specifically) as it confuses them.


When dealing with airlines, normally show them the passport you
intend to use at the other end.

Jeremy

Originally posted by
ABCDiamond
    > Use whichever one corresponds to the shortest queue
    :)
    >
    > The UK passport queue is normally the shortest, and fastest to
get through. :D
    >
Just make sure you use the same one, going in and
out of the same country, especially OZ, otherwise you confuse the
system :)

Cpw

Originally posted by JAJ
    > The UK allows dual
British/Australian citizens to use either passport, but if you use an
Australian passport you normally need to use the 'non-EEA' channel and
if you plan to do anything other than visit you should have other
evidence of your British citizenship.
    >
    > Jeremy


Except
that if you have a right of abode certificate in your Australian
passport, you may use the EEA passport channel with your Australian
passport at UK ports of entry, which is usually quicker than the non-EEA
channel. (However, if the other queue is shorter, which it is sometimes,
then good luck to you - you're not going to be turned back.)


Christopher

Northbanker

Originally posted by CPW
    > Except that if you have a
right of abode certificate in your Australian passport, you may use the
EEA passport channel with your Australian passport at UK ports of entry,
which is usually quicker than the non-EEA channel. (However, if the
other queue is shorter, which it is sometimes, then good luck to you -
you're not going to be turned back.)
    >
    > Christopher


I have
bog standard passports. So you are saying leave england showing my
english passport, get to oz and show my ozzy passport.

leave oz
showing oz passport. Arrive in england and show english passport???

Cpw

Originally posted by northbanker
    > I have bog standard
passports. So you are saying leave england showing my english passport,
get to oz and show my ozzy passport.
    >
    > leave oz showing oz
passport. Arrive in england and show english passport???



Yes, that is basically what I am saying.

So, when you are leaving
the UK, show your Australian passport at the airline check-in. (This is
because the airline needs to ensure that you will be admitted to
Australia at the other end - otherwise they may face a stiff fine).


(Then, if there were passport control on leaving the UK - as there
used to be - you'd show your UK passport; however, there is at present
no exit passport control at UK ports.)

When getting on the plane, show
your Australian passport.

Obviously, use your Australian passport to
go through Australian immigration control.

On the return trip, back to
the UK, the reverse applies. Show your UK passport at the airline check-
in (for the same reasons as outlined above).

Then, show your Australian
passport at Australian emigration control.

When getting on the plane,
show your UK passport.

And, again obviously, use your UK passport to go
through UK passport control.

There is nothing questionable or unusual
in doing this - many, many people have two passports completely
legitimately (and the number of people with both Australian and UK
passports probably amounts to some millions). I have never, when making
a trip from the UK to Australia or vice versa, had any problems. If
anyone ever did ask about missing passport stamps or something like
that, then I would be able to indicate quite truthfully that I have both
UK and Australian nationality. But no one ever has asked.

Indeed,
although an Australian citizen must use an Australian passport to enter
and leave Australia (i.e. must show an Australian passport to the
immigration officials - this stricture doesn't extend to what passport
you should show to airline check-in staff), the official Australian
position is quite clear that Australians with dual nationality may use a
non-Australian passport if they so choose when away from Australia.
Similarly, the UK authorities have no problems with UK citizens with
dual nationality using a non-UK passport when abroad (and, as I noted
above, the UK authorities will *generally* issue dual-national UK
citizens with a certificate confirming their right of abode in the UK in
their non-UK passport, so that they may enter the UK on their non-UK
passport "without let or hindrance").

Ptlabs

Originally posted by northbanker
    > <snip>So you are
saying leave england showing my english passport <snip>
    >


If you took a closer look at your passport, you'd notice it's a
British passport instead. England does not issue passport in her own
name :)

Peter

BritboyNZ

Originally posted by JAJ
    > As an Australian citizen
travelling into and out of Australia, you must generally show an
Australian passport to DIMIA officers.
    >

Interesting
discussion...

Jeremy, I am assuming this is why Australia doesn't issue
indefinite RRV's? Because they expect Australian citizens to always use
their Aus passports when entering/departing Australia (and therefore a
dual national UK/Aus citizen cannot get the Australian equivalent of a
Certificate of Entitlement / Indefinite RRV in their UK passport)?

This
is different from NZ which doesn't mind at all if, for example, a dual
national NZ/UK citizen uses a UK passport with an indefinite RRV to
enter NZ rather than their NZ passport. Indeed, the NZIS site actually
states that NZ citizens who have dual nationality can apply for an
indefinite RRV in their other passport, should they wish to travel on
that passport.

The info about getting a Certificate of Entitlement was
useful - I checked it out as it would be convenient for me to be able to
enter the UK or NZ and be able to stay/work in either country using
either passport. The only downside was the cost - the fee for getting a
Certificate of Entitlement in my NZ passport from the UK High Commission
in Wellington is NZ$308!!!

Russ

Stephen Gallagher

(snipped explanation about a dual national using two passports)
    >
    > There is nothing questionable or unusual
    > in doing this - many, many people have two passports completely
    > legitimately (and the number of people with both Australian and UK
    > passports probably amounts to some millions). I have never, when making
    > a trip from the UK to Australia or vice versa, had any problems. If
    > anyone ever did ask about missing passport stamps or something like
    > that, then I would be able to indicate quite truthfully that I have both
    > UK and Australian nationality. But no one ever has asked.

The comment about what to say if the immigration officer were to ask
why there were no stamps in a passport, usually always ends up being
mentioned. But has this ever really happened to anyone? I've seen
immigration do a quick flip though passport pages, but I've never seen
them actually go looking for the stamps for the country I just left. While
it could be that a person may have to piece together a trail of where
they've been travelling, in some unusual circumstances, I don't think it's the
norm for immigration officers to go looking for the passport stamps of
the countries where an arriving traveller says he's been.

Comments?

Stephen