Shawn Dubie

Hello,

My Wife And I Very Recently Filed The I751 Application To Remove
The Conditions On Her Permanent Residency. We Have A Bit Of A Situation
And I Want To See If Anyone Thinks It May Be A Problem

We Are Both
University Students And Move Every Year Or Two And Because Of This Use
My Mothers Home As Our Permanent Address For University And Other
Ongoing Correspondence As She Lives In The Same Town That We Attend
University.

Since Our Last Lease Concluded In August, We Have Actually
Been Living With Her In Her Home As Our Plans In The Spring Are A Bit Up
In The Air And We Did Not Want To Commit To A Year Rental Contract.


Very Shortly After We Mailed Our I751 Application, We Moved To An
Apartment Owned By A Friend Who Was Traveling For 2 Months And Gave Us
Their Apartment To Use Short Term.
We Filled Out The Temporary Change
Of Address Form To Have Our Mail Forwarded For The 2 Months We Would Be
Living There.

Yesterday, We Received Our Noa And Receipt For The Filing
Of The I751 Form But,,,,,,,,,, It Was Actually Mailed To Our New Tempory
Address. The Envelop Was Hand Written With The New Address And Attached
To The Receipt Form, Was The Original Envelop That Bcis Had Sent To Us
Which Had Been Returned To Them When It Went Into The Forwarding System
And Had The Yellow "forward To" Sticker Attached As I751 Correspondence
Can Not Be Forwarded And Must Be Returned To Sender.

On One Hand, We
Feel Very Fortunate That Someone Went To The Trouble To Resend The
Receipt After It Being Returned But,,
On The Other Hand, We Are A Bit
Concerned That It May Look Bad That The Mail Was Forwarded To Another
Address As We Never Filed An Address Change To This Address As We Only
Plan On Being There 2 Months And Use My Mothers Home As Or Permanent.


Please, Please Advise And Let Us Know What You Think
WOULD THIS BE A
REASON FOR THE BCIS TO RED FLAG OUR APPLICATION FOR AN INTERVIEW WHICH
WOULD REALLY BE A PAIN AND DELAY THE PROCESSING OF OUR APPLICATION? OR
ARE WE WORRIED FOR NO REASON?

Thank You
Shawn

DCMark

Sorry your post is un-readable due to capitalization of every word.
Why?


Originally posted by SHAWN DUBIE
    > Hello,
    >
    > My
Wife And I Very Recently Filed The I751 Application To Remove The
Conditions On Her Permanent Residency. We Have A Bit Of A Situation And
I Want To See If Anyone Thinks It May Be A Problem
    >
    > We Are Both
University Students And Move Every Year Or Two And Because Of This Use
My Mothers Home As Our Permanent Address For University And Other
Ongoing Correspondence As She Lives In The Same Town That We Attend
University.
    >
    > Since Our Last Lease Concluded In August, We Have
Actually Been Living With Her In Her Home As Our Plans In The Spring Are
A Bit Up In The Air And We Did Not Want To Commit To A Year Rental
Contract.
    >
    > Very Shortly After We Mailed Our I751 Application, We
Moved To An Apartment Owned By A Friend Who Was Traveling For 2 Months
And Gave Us Their Apartment To Use Short Term.
    > We Filled Out The
Temporary Change Of Address Form To Have Our Mail Forwarded For The 2
Months We Would Be Living There.
    >
    > Yesterday, We Received Our Noa And
Receipt For The Filing Of The I751 Form But,,,,,,,,,, It Was Actually
Mailed To Our New Tempory Address. The Envelop Was Hand Written With The
New Address And Attached To The Receipt Form, Was The Original Envelop
That Bcis Had Sent To Us Which Had Been Returned To Them When It Went
Into The Forwarding System And Had The Yellow "forward To" Sticker
Attached As I751 Correspondence Can Not Be Forwarded And Must Be
Returned To Sender.
    >
    > On One Hand, We Feel Very Fortunate That
Someone Went To The Trouble To Resend The Receipt After It Being
Returned But,,
    > On The Other Hand, We Are A Bit Concerned That It May
Look Bad That The Mail Was Forwarded To Another Address As We Never
Filed An Address Change To This Address As We Only Plan On Being There 2
Months And Use My Mothers Home As Or Permanent.
    >
    > Please, Please
Advise And Let Us Know What You Think
    > WOULD THIS BE A REASON FOR THE
BCIS TO RED FLAG OUR APPLICATION FOR AN INTERVIEW WHICH WOULD REALLY BE
A PAIN AND DELAY THE PROCESSING OF OUR APPLICATION? OR ARE WE WORRIED
FOR NO REASON?
    >
    > Thank You
Shawn

Rete

You don't say what service center you are using. Chances are good that
adjudication will not be for at minimum one year from date of filing so
your worry is groundless at the moment as you will NOT be receiving any
further correspondence from them for a while.
I don't find your post
difficult to read but it is strange. However, your post does not make
sense at all.

First you tell us you always use your mother's address on
USCIS petitions and then you tell us that you went ahead and filed a
"forward delivery" notice with the post office.

WHY?????????????

If
the address was and still is your mother's why have you mail forwarded?


Rete


Originally posted by SHAWN DUBIE
    > Hello,
    >
My Wife And I Very Recently Filed The I751 Application To Remove The
Conditions On Her Permanent Residency. We Have A Bit Of A Situation And
I Want To See If Anyone Thinks It May Be A Problem
    >
    > We Are Both
University Students And Move Every Year Or Two And Because Of This Use
My Mothers Home As Our Permanent Address For University And Other
Ongoing Correspondence As She Lives In The Same Town That We Attend
University.
    >
    > Since Our Last Lease Concluded In August, We Have
Actually Been Living With Her In Her Home As Our Plans In The Spring Are
A Bit Up In The Air And We Did Not Want To Commit To A Year Rental
Contract.
    >
    > Very Shortly After We Mailed Our I751 Application, We
Moved To An Apartment Owned By A Friend Who Was Traveling For 2 Months
And Gave Us Their Apartment To Use Short Term.
    > We Filled Out The
Temporary Change Of Address Form To Have Our Mail Forwarded For The 2
Months We Would Be Living There.
    >
    > Yesterday, We Received Our Noa And
Receipt For The Filing Of The I751 Form But,,,,,,,,,, It Was Actually
Mailed To Our New Tempory Address. The Envelop Was Hand Written With The
New Address And Attached To The Receipt Form, Was The Original Envelop
That Bcis Had Sent To Us Which Had Been Returned To Them When It Went
Into The Forwarding System And Had The Yellow "forward To" Sticker
Attached As I751 Correspondence Can Not Be Forwarded And Must Be
Returned To Sender.
    >
    > On One Hand, We Feel Very Fortunate That
Someone Went To The Trouble To Resend The Receipt After It Being
Returned But,,
    > On The Other Hand, We Are A Bit Concerned That It May
Look Bad That The Mail Was Forwarded To Another Address As We Never
Filed An Address Change To This Address As We Only Plan On Being There 2
Months And Use My Mothers Home As Or Permanent.
    >
    > Please, Please
Advise And Let Us Know What You Think
    > WOULD THIS BE A REASON FOR THE
BCIS TO RED FLAG OUR APPLICATION FOR AN INTERVIEW WHICH WOULD REALLY BE
A PAIN AND DELAY THE PROCESSING OF OUR APPLICATION? OR ARE WE WORRIED
FOR NO REASON?
    >
    > Thank You
Shawn

Shawn Dubie

Wow,
what a formatting disaster i had with this post. I apoligize to
those who had to try to read it. I have edited and corrected the
problem.

The mail forwarding issue has turned into quite a mess.
like
i mentioned in my post, we have always used my mothers house as our
"permanent address" for important mail. When we moved last month to the
apartment we would be staying in for 2 months, i explained to my wife
that we may need to file a change of address with bcis. My sweet, good
intentioned wife got a bit confused and filed the change address with
the POST OFFICE thinking that is what i meant. we have since corrected
the problem and have mail being received at my mothers home again but
for several weeks it was being forwarded including the letter from bcis.


Again sorry for any confusion and hope this helps my post make a bit
more sense.








Originally posted by SHAWN DUBIE
Hello,
    >
    > My wife and I very recently filed the I751 application to
remove the conditions on her permanent residency. We have a bit of a
situation and I want to see if anyone thinks it may be a problem.
    >
We are both university students and move every year or two. Because of
this we use my mother’s home as our permanent address for university and
other ongoing correspondence as she lives in the same town that we
attend university.
    >
    > Since our last lease concluded in august, we
have actually been living with her in her home as our plans in the
spring are a bit up in the air and we did not want to commit to a year
rental contract.
    >
    > Very shortly after we mailed our I751
application, we moved to an apartment owned by a friend who is traveling
for 2 months and gave us their apartment to use short term.
    > We filled
out the temporary change of address form to have our mail forwarded for
the 2 months we would be living there.
    >
    > Yesterday, we received our
Noa and receipt for the filing of the I751 form but, it was actually
mailed to our new temporary address. The envelope was hand written with
the new address and attached to the receipt form, was the original
envelope that Bcis had sent to us which had been returned to them when
it went into the forwarding system and had the yellow "forward to"
sticker attached as I751 correspondence can not be forwarded and must be
returned to sender.
    >
    > On one hand, we feel very fortunate that
someone went to the trouble to resend the receipt after it being
returned but,,
    > On the other hand, we are a bit concerned that it may
look bad that the mail was forwarded to another address as we never
filed an address change with bcis to this address as we only plan on
being there 2 months and use my mothers home as our permanent address.

    > Please, advise and let us know what you think.
    > WOULD THIS BE A
REASON FOR THE BCIS TO RED FLAG OUR APPLICATION FOR AN INTERVIEW WHICH
WOULD REALLY BE A PAIN AND DELAY THE PROCESSING OF OUR APPLICATION? OR
ARE WE WORRIED FOR NO REASON?
    >
    > Thank You
Shawn

Meauxna

Originally posted by SHAWN DUBIE
    > The mail forwarding
issue has turned into quite a mess.

The main mess I can
imagine (and I haven't gone thru this, because I maintained one mailing
address, even while living in different places) is getting your real and
true mailing address to BCIS and having them retain it. Since they now
have your temporary addy on file, hope & pray that the person you're
housesitting for is a good sport and will collect immigration mail for
you.

As to 'is it a problem'? What type of problem? You have a logical
explanation, should one be required. Best wishes for a speedy
conclusion!

Matthew Udall

Why would you list an address as your residence if you don't live there?


The I-751 asks you to list your residential address, and it also has a
place to list your mailing address if different from the residential
address in c/o.

Shawn Dubie

thanks Matthew.

i hoped that i explained what the address issue was.


As specified in the application, we included all addresses lived at
since permanent residence being accuired.

having our mail forwarded was
a complete mistake and mess that was done as a good intentioned move by
my wife.

Regardless,

new development today. We received NOA from INS
but,, seems like wrong one. We got ""welcome letter"" from ins stating
that you now have an a# and you will receive your card in the mail
within 4 to 6 weeks..... your status is conditional for 2 years,, after
2 years... BLA BLA...SOUND FAMILIAR??

That is the letter that is sent
after first being granted conditional status.
obviously, this is some
kind of clerical error and i have to get on the phone tomorrow as we had
this identical letter over 2 years ago?

funny thing is, the day
before, we got the receipt saying application for i751 being received
and in processing.
Has anyone ever heard of this?

I am not worried
about the mail issue anymore as it was an honest mistake and not such a
big deal but,
why would we get the original welcome letter resent,, over
2 years later. when we are expecting a wait for the approval for the
i751?!?!

HMMMMM






Originally posted by Matthew Udall

    > Why would you list an address as your residence if you don't live
there?
    >
The I-751 asks you to list your residential address, and it
also has a place to list your mailing address if different from the
residential address in c/o.

Zee-man

Hey Shawn,

I just read your post about change of address and since i
have somewhat similar situation thought, you might be able to share your
experience.

My wife and I have a friend that asked us to housesit for
them while they were gone travelling around US for about 3 months. We
decided to help them out and agreed to do it. But the problem is that
their house is in another town about 40-50 miles away from where we live
right now. Since my wife has a job to close where we live right now she
can't quite it and just move to another city for 6 months, so basically
I'm housitting for them "full time", she comes down here at weekends and
I go up to our appartment once a week, so we still get to spend quite a
bit of time together. I thought I'd put in a mail forward at USPS just
for me because I'm applying to a lot of different jobs and it's very
important to me to get any response from my future employers as soon as
possible. I'd be very uncomfortable waiting for my wife to bring down
the mail at weekends. But from what you said it seems like INS will be
aware of the fact that I've moved immidiately as soon as they send us
any mail. and i think, it will be very suspicious if they look in our
file at the interview and see that for some period of time our mailing
address have been different from each other.

Please advise what you
think. Do you think that this might be a problem at the interview and so
it's not worth messing with or should i go ahead and do it?

Thanks a
lot.

Zee

P.S. Anyone having any suggestions/ideas please share your
wisdom. Thanks for your help beforehand.

Sphyrapicus

Shawn,

I had a similar thing happen to me.

I submitted my I-751 and
then 10 months later I moved. I provided USCIS with a letter to Kentucky
(AR-11), a letter to my old service center (TSC), and a letter to my
local office (Jacksonville). After I moved, I was put on a training
period in another state so I had my USPS mail temporarily forwarded to
my temporary address while training. I did not inform USCIS of the
temporary address because it is not required (my permanent new address
remained unchanged).

During my time away on training, USCIS (TSC) sent
me a NOA welcoming me to the U.S. and congratulating me on receiving
conditional status and that I would be soon receiving my green card in
the mail. Like you, I received this NOA in error since I had been a
conditional permanent resident for almost 3 years at that point. The
funny thing was that USCIS (TSC) sent the NOA to my new pemanent address
but because the USPS was only temporarily forwarding my mail, it was
returned to USCIS saying "temporarily away). TSC then remailed the NOA
in a handwritten envelope to my OLD address. The old address also had a
USPS forward on it (to my new permanent address which was in turn
forwarded to my temporary address).

So, you see, we have a similar
experience. If the envelope says "Return Service Requested" then any
mail that is normally forwarded by USPS will return to sender as opposed
to being forwarded. If the forward is a permanent forward the sender
will be informed of the new address. If the forward is temporary then
the sender will not be informed (the yellow sticker merely says
"temporarily away" without any forwarding address). This is an odd quirk
of the USPS system and can really screw people up that use temporary
forwarding (especially if bills or other important documents are
mailed). If the envelope is not marked with "Return Service Requested"
then all of this is moot and it won't be an issue (i.e. the mail will
forward to the new permanent or temporary address).

A long-winded
story to say that you are not the only one this has happened to.
Especially odd that we both received an incorrect NOA welcoming us to
America.

Sphy


Originally posted by SHAWN DUBIE
thanks Matthew.
    >
    > i hoped that i explained what the address issue
was.
    >
    > As specified in the application, we included all addresses
lived at since permanent residence being accuired.
    >
    > having our mail
forwarded was a complete mistake and mess that was done as a good
intentioned move by my wife.
    >
    > Regardless,
    >
    > new development
today. We received NOA from INS but,, seems like wrong one. We got
""welcome letter"" from ins stating that you now have an a# and you will
receive your card in the mail within 4 to 6 weeks..... your status is
conditional for 2 years,, after 2 years... BLA BLA...SOUND FAMILIAR??

    > That is the letter that is sent after first being granted conditional
status.
    > obviously, this is some kind of clerical error and i have to
get on the phone tomorrow as we had this identical letter over 2 years
ago?
    >
    > funny thing is, the day before, we got the receipt saying
application for i751 being received and in processing.
    > Has anyone ever
heard of this?
    >
    > I am not worried about the mail issue anymore as it
was an honest mistake and not such a big deal but,
    > why would we get
the original welcome letter resent,, over 2 years later. when we are
expecting a wait for the approval for the i751?!?!
    >
HMMMMM

Sphyrapicus

Zee-man,

It has been my experience that mail forwards take much more
time than is typical. I bet you that if your wife brought you your mail
on the weekends that it would still be faster than receiving your
forwarded mail. I find that forwarded mail takes about 1-3 weeks to
arrive (when mailed within the U.S.) whereas non-forwarded mail takes
1-5 days. I'd forget about the forwarding - it's much more hassle than
it's worth (see also my previous message regarding USCIS mail
forwarding).

Sphy

Originally posted by Zee-man
    > Hey
Shawn,
    >
    > I just read your post about change of address and since i
have somewhat similar situation thought, you might be able to share your
experience.
    >
    > My wife and I have a friend that asked us to housesit
for them while they were gone travelling around US for about 3 months.
We decided to help them out and agreed to do it. But the problem is that
their house is in another town about 40-50 miles away from where we live
right now. Since my wife has a job to close where we live right now she
can't quite it and just move to another city for 6 months, so basically
I'm housitting for them "full time", she comes down here at weekends and
I go up to our appartment once a week, so we still get to spend quite a
bit of time together. I thought I'd put in a mail forward at USPS just
for me because I'm applying to a lot of different jobs and it's very
important to me to get any response from my future employers as soon as
possible. I'd be very uncomfortable waiting for my wife to bring down
the mail at weekends. But from what you said it seems like INS will be
aware of the fact that I've moved immidiately as soon as they send us
any mail. and i think, it will be very suspicious if they look in our
file at the interview and see that for some period of time our mailing
address have been different from each other.
    >
    > Please advise what
you think. Do you think that this might be a problem at the interview
and so it's not worth messing with or should i go ahead and do it?
    >
Thanks a lot.
    >
    > Zee
    >
P.S. Anyone having any suggestions/ideas
please share your wisdom. Thanks for your help beforehand.