Rb

I have written the following 8-9 Months ago

"""Hello, I hope someone can solve my problem here.

I am about to apply for citizenship next month, I have been here for 4 years
(2 on student visa and 2 as permanent residence).I get half time when I was
here as student which makes it 3 years

Now, when I was a student, I traveled to USA for 5 days (Left Canada on 27th
August,2000 and returned on 2nd Septmber 2000 via quebec in car). However,
the Immigration officer stamped my passport as 2nd September, 2001.

Now meanwhile, I went back to home country for 11 days, came back on 11
Jan,2001. Got maried in May, 2001 in canada and went for honeymoon to US for
7 days-returned on June 8, 2001.

Now when I recieve my citizenship interview, I have heard they cross check
passport stamps and if they come across the WRONG stamp, they are bound to
ask me what was that.

The stamp also has few numbers on it, now if I tell them it is immigration
officers mistake, can they cross-check with the numbers or there is no way
to tell.

In addition, my scenario is that they ask me when did I go to US, as
according to the WRONG date I came back to canada on 2nd Sep,2001. Now I was
in US from June 2nd-June 8th, 2001 for my honeymoon so that means to come
back in Canada (on sept 2, 2001) I must have gone to US obviously (Can be
only USA as the stamp I have is only possible if I enter quebec from USA),
now there is no stamp me going to US between June 8th and 2nd Sep, 2001.

Also, I have many arrival/departure stamps and will be like a puzzle for me
to explain everything. What should I do? Call CIC, or perhaps make up a lie
and put on my form that I traveled for a day to US in sep 2001 (but there is
no stamp suggesting that-i., going to US), should I lie to cover their
mistake

I have 3 passports attached together, the recent one has just 2-3 stamps and
the WRONG stamp is in previous passport, I have been told many times that I
don't need to carry all but just the one which is valid i.e, the most
recent. I am wondering if I am required to take all 3 or just go quietly
with the most recent one, althought my in-out of canada is in recent as well
the old passport"""


__________________________________________________ ______________


The Time has come, I have my citizenship test on May 2nd. The Letter I
recieved states I have to bring in Current and Expired Passports (whatever
in my possession)

As you can see Gentleman from the above explanation, I am in dilemma.

I also confirmed with Immigration CSR, she said, if you dont have expired
passports its fine, and if you do and for the above problem just show proof
that you were in Canada for that Period

I have
1) Credit Card Statement (Just one Company) for that period (Aug, 2000-Oct
2001)
2) Grade sheets from my College (few showing fees)

I have Tax Paper reciept too (But I didnt file in that year, filed last year
for 2001-2004 together

I will goto my school for more proof and asking for a lettter stating that I
was in Canada in that period

Will also try and call old apartment bulding

My question is, are items 1 and 2 in my possession enough? incl Tax reciept

I know I shouldn't lie but would it be good not to show expired passports to
avoid this confusion, I am worried they might ask me more papers and if I am
not able to get them

During the test, will I get a chance to speak to an officer and explain
him/her

Also, what happens if someone really has no expired passports with them, coz
if they check my days outside canada, this could be good as I know I am not
lying

is it possible to tell from the stamp (has few numbers ) that it belonged to
year 2000, and not 2001

Last but not least, out of my time outside of Canada the big one was 45 days
and is in my current passport and the problem for which I am worried abt is
abt 5 days which was during my student time (as we get half time befre PR)

So please, please advice me

Should I avoid taking expired passport
Tell the truth and show whatever documents I have

Andrew Miller

You need to show other evidence of being in Canada in periods claimed -
school attendance or employment record, credit and debit card statements
showing their usage in Canada in claimed days, your utility bills, etc..

Rb

Thanx Mr. Miller

Claimed days? - The days I was in Canada

I am little confused, will they ask for them anyways, or I have to show them
myself

As for the problem perriod, I only have gradesheet from College, Credit Card
Statement of 1 Company, Debit card (bank said, will provide only if
Citizenship asked for it)

I just had phone bills
No employment, as I wasn't allowed to work outside campus

or should I just NOT take the expired passport (or that doesn't matter),
they might ask proof anyways

The thing is I am more worried to gather old documents from different places

P.S I had a certified true copy of Landing paper and then got PR Card, I
can't seem to find Landing Paper (is that a problem)?

thanx
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    > You need to show other evidence of being in Canada in periods claimed -
    > school attendance or employment record, credit and debit card statements
    > showing their usage in Canada in claimed days, your utility bills, etc..
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    > >I have written the following 8-9 Months ago
    > >
    > > """Hello, I hope someone can solve my problem here.
    > >
    > > I am about to apply for citizenship next month, I have been here for 4
    > > years
    > > (2 on student visa and 2 as permanent residence).I get half time when I
    > > was
    > > here as student which makes it 3 years
    > >
    > > Now, when I was a student, I traveled to USA for 5 days (Left Canada on
    > > 27th
    > > August,2000 and returned on 2nd Septmber 2000 via quebec in car).
However,
    > > the Immigration officer stamped my passport as 2nd September, 2001.
    > >
    > > Now meanwhile, I went back to home country for 11 days, came back on 11
    > > Jan,2001. Got maried in May, 2001 in canada and went for honeymoon to US
    > > for
    > > 7 days-returned on June 8, 2001.
    > >
    > > Now when I recieve my citizenship interview, I have heard they cross
check
    > > passport stamps and if they come across the WRONG stamp, they are bound
to
    > > ask me what was that.
    > >
    > > The stamp also has few numbers on it, now if I tell them it is
immigration
    > > officers mistake, can they cross-check with the numbers or there is no
way
    > > to tell.
    > >
    > > In addition, my scenario is that they ask me when did I go to US, as
    > > according to the WRONG date I came back to canada on 2nd Sep,2001. Now I
    > > was
    > > in US from June 2nd-June 8th, 2001 for my honeymoon so that means to
come
    > > back in Canada (on sept 2, 2001) I must have gone to US obviously (Can
be
    > > only USA as the stamp I have is only possible if I enter quebec from
USA),
    > > now there is no stamp me going to US between June 8th and 2nd Sep, 2001.
    > >
    > > Also, I have many arrival/departure stamps and will be like a puzzle for
    > > me
    > > to explain everything. What should I do? Call CIC, or perhaps make up a
    > > lie
    > > and put on my form that I traveled for a day to US in sep 2001 (but
there
    > > is
    > > no stamp suggesting that-i., going to US), should I lie to cover their
    > > mistake
    > >
    > > I have 3 passports attached together, the recent one has just 2-3 stamps
    > > and
    > > the WRONG stamp is in previous passport, I have been told many times
that
    > > I
    > > don't need to carry all but just the one which is valid i.e, the most
    > > recent. I am wondering if I am required to take all 3 or just go quietly
    > > with the most recent one, althought my in-out of canada is in recent as
    > > well
    > > the old passport"""
    > >
    > >
    > > __________________________________________________ ______________
    > >
    > >
    > > The Time has come, I have my citizenship test on May 2nd. The Letter I
    > > recieved states I have to bring in Current and Expired Passports
(whatever
    > > in my possession)
    > >
    > > As you can see Gentleman from the above explanation, I am in dilemma.
    > >
    > > I also confirmed with Immigration CSR, she said, if you dont have
expired
    > > passports its fine, and if you do and for the above problem just show
    > > proof
    > > that you were in Canada for that Period
    > >
    > > I have
    > > 1) Credit Card Statement (Just one Company) for that period (Aug,
2000-Oct
    > > 2001)
    > > 2) Grade sheets from my College (few showing fees)
    > >
    > > I have Tax Paper reciept too (But I didnt file in that year, filed last
    > > year
    > > for 2001-2004 together
    > >
    > > I will goto my school for more proof and asking for a lettter stating
that
    > > I
    > > was in Canada in that period
    > >
    > > Will also try and call old apartment bulding
    > >
    > > My question is, are items 1 and 2 in my possession enough? incl Tax
    > > reciept
    > >
    > > I know I shouldn't lie but would it be good not to show expired
passports
    > > to
    > > avoid this confusion, I am worried they might ask me more papers and if
I
    > > am
    > > not able to get them
    > >
    > > During the test, will I get a chance to speak to an officer and explain
    > > him/her
    > >
    > > Also, what happens if someone really has no expired passports with them,
    > > coz
    > > if they check my days outside canada, this could be good as I know I am
    > > not
    > > lying
    > >
    > > is it possible to tell from the stamp (has few numbers ) that it
belonged
    > > to
    > > year 2000, and not 2001
    > >
    > > Last but not least, out of my time outside of Canada the big one was 45
    > > days
    > > and is in my current passport and the problem for which I am worried abt
    > > is
    > > abt 5 days which was during my student time (as we get half time befre
PR)
    > >
    > > So please, please advice me
    > >
    > > Should I avoid taking expired passport
    > > Tell the truth and show whatever documents I have
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >

Andrew Miller

Take the passport with you, not taking it may create more problems.

Your school attendance record for the period prior to landing when you were
in school should be enough. But for the period after landing if you were not
attending school anymore you will have to show employment record, utility
bills (not just a cell phone bill) and credit/bank card statements showing
their usage in Canada.

You need original of your landing document - if you can't find it then you
must immediately contact CIC and obtain certified copy of it from them.