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Old 12-11-2003, 03:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Default With legal immigrant NOT illegal or undocumented alien

I agree with you. This country was built by the immigrant. But with legal
immigrant NOT illegal or undocumented alien.


"Dean Bullock" <> wrote in message
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    > I agree, hijo de la chingada, the mexican is unorganized, has a very
corrupt
    > political system, and without personnal or family responsibilities, but
what
    > is worse a disgusting, filthy, useless mexican hombre here or an american
    > hating terrorist, ready to kill, here. But there are a few good mexican
    > people here, that does not think the same about white people as you do
about
    > them. Furthermore they can serve as very important key allie to this
    > country, and those that are here suffer the same fate we do or will,
    > whatever that is. Remember this country was built by the immigrant, AND
DONT
    > FORGET THAT PIECE OF IMPORTANT EDUCATION!
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Old 12-11-2003, 05:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:46:54 -0600, Ken Pisichko <> opined:

    >If you want to play THAT game, look at human "conquest" of any land. Some day
    >Nebraska and Texas and even New York will be held by a "nation" other than the
    >USA.

That's a bit uncertain, wouldn't you say? Or do you have a crystal ball at your disposal?

    >Same goes for the other 49 states and for that Bay held by the US military
    >in Cuba, etc.... Nothing lasts forever. Read the poem "Ozymandeous of Egypt"
    >that is in some high school reading requirements. Same old story :-(

Read a poem? Why? Whatthe**** is wrong with you?

    >No point in making fun of some other group of people because they don't meet
    >your (i.e. the ridiculer's) standards.

Just keep them out of here and there will be no problem. The feds aren't doing it, and the border dwellers
could resort to the SSS method of territorial control sometime. We wouldn't want that, would we? I mean, what
would La Raza and Bush's beaner nephew say?

    >Differences is what makes this world so
    >rich. Is that not one of the reasons why the USA wanted immigration so many
    >years ago (aka "Give us your unwanted....... (people) ....."?

Some Jewish bull dyke wrote that crap. It has nothing to do with U.S. immigration laws.

    >"H. Reader" wrote:
    >> "--=Cochise~|||~Guardian=--" <jay*--REMOVE--*@adnmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:23:13 -0600, Ken Pisichko <> opined:
    >> >
    >> > >--=Cochise~|||~Guardian=-- wrote:
    >> > >
    >> > >>
    >> > >> The Mexican was too weak to hold onto anything significant, and is
    >> still to stupid or too corrupt to create a
    >> > >> decent society. The only good Mexican is either "en México," or "en
    >> carcerated." Of course there's one other
    >> > >> sort of "good Mexican", and that's "en terra," if you get my drift :-D
    >> > >>
    >> > >
    >> > >Sounds like the rationale used by other nations in colonizing a free
    >> peoples and putting them into colonial
    >> > >"slavery". Materialistic Bullies talk that talk. What is wrong with
    >> someone holding on to what is "theirs" -
    >> > >unless a bully covets it?
    >> >
    >> > Kindly provide proof that the lowly Mexican held the territory in question
    >> for more than about 25 years after
    >> > stealing said territory from Spain.
    >> The lowly Mexicans never did hold the territory; the Apaches and
    >> Comanches did.

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Old 12-11-2003, 05:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:46:54 -0600, Ken Pisichko <> wrote:

    >If you want to play THAT game, look at human "conquest" of any land. Some day
    >Nebraska and Texas and even New York will be held by a "nation" other than the
    >USA. Same goes for the other 49 states and for that Bay held by the US military
    >in Cuba, etc.... Nothing lasts forever. Read the poem "Ozymandeous of Egypt"
    >that is in some high school reading requirements. Same old story :-(
    >No point in making fun of some other group of people because they don't meet
    >your (i.e. the ridiculer's) standards. Differences is what makes this world so
    >rich. Is that not one of the reasons why the USA wanted immigration so many
    >years ago (aka "Give us your unwanted....... (people) ....."?

Actually no. The sentiment on the Statue of Liberty, which was
something sent in by a little girl in a contest, was about Europeans
who were considered to be the lowest rung in their own countries,
having the opportunity here to rise to what their talents allow. It
had nothing to do with the false strength attributed to "Diversity",
by the Orwells of today.
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Old 12-12-2003, 12:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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"Dean Bullock" <> wrote in message news:<br8rnq$3jbk$>...
    > I agree, hijo de la chingada, the mexican is unorganized, has a very corrupt
    > political system, and without personnal or family responsibilities, but what
    > is worse a disgusting, filthy, useless mexican hombre here or an american
    > hating terrorist, ready to kill, here. But there are a few good mexican
    > people here, that does not think the same about white people as you do about
    > them. Furthermore they can serve as very important key allie to this
    > country, and those that are here suffer the same fate we do or will,
    > whatever that is. Remember this country was built by the immigrant, AND DONT
    > FORGET THAT PIECE OF IMPORTANT EDUCATION!

Dear Sir,

As to your comment

"mexican is unorganized, has a very corrupt political system, and
without personnal or family responsibilities"

I would like to point out, **** YOU.
I am Mexican. I am well organized, and very responsible towards my
family and my personal affairs. Most of the Mexicans I know are too.
Some are not. Most of the Americans that I know are responsible. Some
are not. The point being, it is not a race or nationality thing.
You must remember that the border acts as a "poor filter"; the
Mexicans who migrate to the US are mostly poor, therefore less
educated. This lower level of education may translate into
unacceptable social behaviour. But this is a characteristic of the
POOR, not of the MEXICAN (not all poor, only a percentaje). You are
making a classification mistake. This mistake is common, and it is
called "racial stereotyping". Intelligent people are able to
understand the concept. I trust you will to.
Now, as to the "very corrupt political system". I would like to point
out that Mexico has been a true democracy for only 3 years. In 2000,
Vicente Fox, from the PAN party, won the first truly clean elections
in our entire history. The governments prevous to 2000 where nothing
more than a rotating dictatorship. The new Mexico, us, we are working
HARD to fix the problems that the previous corrupt government left.
One of them is corruption. You may find the following news item of
interest:
Mexico Meeting Produces Global Anti-Corruption Treaty
http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?o...E87A2F8E48CDCF

There is much to do. It will take time. But we will get the job done.

I would like to conclude also that CHINGAS A TU MADRE, GÜEY.

Thank you.
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Old 12-12-2003, 01:12 AM   #15 (permalink)
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" en terra "Final solution aye?



and you want to improve America? We don't need your

kind of immigration law.

garbage like you should be en terra not good hard working

people.







Originally posted by --=Cochise~|||~Guardian=--

    > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:12:11 -0500, "Dean Bullock"
    > <> opined:


    > >I'am an anglo american and my son is half mexican and half anglo
    > and PROUD

    > >OF HIM. I agree, there are certain illegals who display such
    > undesireable

    > >behavior, but that happens everywhere, no matter the race in this
    > crazy

    > >world, but did you think the native indian here, accepted the
    > white anglo in

    > >this country? So my question to you, is........who are you to
    > judge others?

    > >You and I do not belong here either, besides the mexican was here
    > before the

    > >united states annexed the western half of this country


    > The Mexican was too weak to hold onto anything significant, and is
    > still to stupid or too corrupt to create a

    > decent society. The only good Mexican is either "en México," or "en
    > carcerated." Of course there's one other

    > sort of "good Mexican", and that's "en terra," if you get my drift :-D


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Old 12-12-2003, 01:21 AM   #16 (permalink)
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If you take note in my other messages (IF YOUR STILL BLIND) I was stating
that some are lacking those traits and others are
alright........furthermore, I also mentioned my son is half mexican and
anglo..............UNDERSTAND NOW!
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Old 12-12-2003, 01:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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come one Nav. This is super dumb.



1) people don't give up their rights and land because they don't

have codified laws and having laws don't make things right.

(slave laws). Besides there were laws made by European

powers serving their interests in the new world. Laws are

not their own justification and you cannot force laws made

by you and your peers through your officials on people who

had no way of affecting them.



2)Even these laws were broken mostly by our government

through greed; I think you know what I am talking

about. Treaties are the highest law and we broke so many

to grab land from the natives.





Originally posted by supernav

    > >besides the mexican was here before the united states >annexed the
    > >western half of this country


    > No they weren't. The Native American tribes extended all the way down
    > from northern canada to the texas/arizona borders. Please check your
    > tribal maps of indian nations from the 1200-1800's before making such
    > silly comments.


    > The white man came because they were no "immigration laws" back then.
    > So you really couldn't blame them (at least for the "coming" part).
    > Now we have immigration laws made by a democracy of people. It's a
    > different scenario.


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Old 12-12-2003, 01:23 AM   #18 (permalink)
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As a white anglo I am defending races and MEXICAN TOO!
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Old 12-12-2003, 01:26 AM   #19 (permalink)
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This country was built by immigrants whatever the status
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Old 12-12-2003, 01:27 AM   #20 (permalink)
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:21:37 -0500, "Dean Bullock" <> opined:

    >If you take note in my other messages (IF YOUR STILL BLIND) I was stating
    >that some are lacking those traits and others are
    >alright........furthermore, I also mentioned my son is half mexican and
    >anglo..............UNDERSTAND NOW!

So, what's your gripe.... specifically. Explain. Yo be da bean?

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