Pozzy

I am looking for the following advice on the following and the *-best
way to provide/ present my paperwork/ proof-* before applying and
filling out any forms, or renewing an expired Resident Return Visa, and
Partner De Facto visa application. Any advice much appreciated above and
beyond the embassy responses below.

SCENARIO 1
VISA RENEWAL

Is their still a possibility of renewing this migrant visa even at this
stage, as I still have business and financial interest in Australia and
would like to return to live and work.

Further to the above, I have been to and lived in Australia having
stayed their for almost a year on a full five year migrant visa, in the
last five years *(sub class 126, multiple travel, permitted to remain in
Australia indefinitely, not to arrive after April 2005)* but had to
return to the UK December 2004, due to family commitments and my
relationship with my current Australian female partner. *-I have been
in the UK since; this visa was issued April 2000 and expired in April
28th 2005 -* . My details follow below:

Age: 39 Years old
Nationality: UK Citizen
Residing: In the UK
Status: Single on application of visa.

Current Partnership, de facto 7 years to a Female Australian Citizen,
due to get engaged. Pure coincidence!

Previous Visa: Subclass 126, 5 year residency visa multiple travel,
allowed to stay in Australia indefinitely. Issued 28/05 2000, Expired
28/05 2005

Australian residency Dates: 10/1/2001 Â? 4/7/2001 & 23/9/2004 Â?
21/12/2004

Assessment of Skills: Management Consultant ASCO 2249-11, Code LH
Meeting standard in June 1995.

CONNECTION SUPPORT DETAILS
Australian Address: Friends accommodation, Australian Citizen, I am
registered currently with Medicare, Tax File and Bank Account since
January 2000 at an address in Perth.

Tax file number: issued 9/01/2001 never used or claimed through.
Bank Account: Commonwealth Bank of Australia since Feb 2001, currently
holding over $ 40 Â? 45,000 for 6 years.
Medicare card: Valid to 12/ 2007

Business Connections: Do have Australian colleagues/ friends who
operate a management consultancy training business, where I could
probably provide through them some sort of contract/ connection
(backdated), to work for them from the UK and Australia, to cover
possible reasons further to relationship, why I am currently in the UK?
Suggestions?

Education: Degree in Business & Finance, Postgraduate in Management
Employment Background: Management Consultant providing financial
advice, debt and credit counseling, planning and strategic business
support services to companies and individuals.


EMBASSY RESPONSE FROM LONDON, 28TH JUNE 2006[/b]THANK YOU FOR YOUR
ENQUIRY.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A RESIDENT RETURN VISA
(RRV). PLEASE READ THE ATTACHMENT AND COMPLETE FORM 1085. THE FEE IS
55 GBP AND THE AVERAGE PROCESSING TIME IS 10 WORKING DAYS.

*SCENARIO 2
PARTNER DE FACTO/ ENGAGED, MARRYING AN AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN *

I AM CURRENTLY LIVING WITH MY FEMALE PARTNER DE FACTO OF 7 YEARS WHO
LIVES IN THE UK (SHE BEING AN AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN) AND ARE LOOKING AT
BECOMING ENGAGED SOON (MYSELF BEING A UK CITIZEN). SHE HAS LIVED AND
WORKED IN THE UK SINCE 1996, HAVING RETURNED TO AUSTRALIA SEVERAL
TIMES ON HOLIDAY SINCE THEN. WE ARE LOOKING AT RETURNING TO AUSTRALIA
TO LIVE AND WORK IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

WHERE DO I STAND ABOUT AND HOW DO I GO ABOUT APPLYING FOR AUSTRALIAN
CITIZENSHIP ONCE MARRIED, AND ARE THEIR ANY TIME CONSTRAINTS ON
APPLYING/ GETTING CITIZENSHIP FROM MARRIAGE, IF IN THE UK.

[b]EMBASSY RESPONSE FROM LONDON, 28TH JUNE 2006

DIMA website: www.immi.gov.au
London website: www.australia.org.uk
If you are not eligible for a RRV then you should consider Partner
Migration. If you have been living together in a de facto relationship
(joint cohabitation in a spouse-like relationship) for a minimum of 12
months then you may be eligible. If you have been in a de facto
relationship for a minimum of 5 years (or 2 years if you have a child
together) then you can apply to have the 2 year wait to permanent
residency waived.

The fee for lodging a spouse application at the London office is 585
GBP, and the average processing time is 3 - 10 weeks. I've attached
some information.

CONCLUSION

What interests me on the above is the highlighted response, this seems
to suggest that I can now at this stage go for residency on a de facto
relationship of 7 years, even though we are not married or engaged just
yet, while still living in the UK?
What are your thoughts on this and the visa renewal? Obviously if I can
go down the route of residency quickly, then the de facto relationship
route, even in the UK, would seem the best option.

I appreciate your advice and time in this matter and look forward to
all your comments. This could well assist others in the best way of
renewing RRVs and any other routes, etc!

Teliko21

> I am looking for the following advice on the following and the *-best
> way to provide/ present my paperwork/ proof-* before applying and
> filling out any forms, or renewing an expired Resident Return Visa,
> and
> Partner De Facto visa application. Any advice much appreciated above
> and
> beyond the embassy responses below.
>
> SCENARIO 1
> VISA RENEWAL
>
> Is their still a possibility of renewing this migrant visa even at
> this
> stage, as I still have business and financial interest in Australia
> and
> would like to return to live and work.
>
> Further to the above, I have been to and lived in Australia having
> stayed their for almost a year on a full five year migrant visa, in
> the
> last five years *(sub class 126, multiple travel, permitted to remain
> in
> Australia indefinitely, not to arrive after April 2005)* but had to
> return to the UK December 2004, due to family commitments and my
> relationship with my current Australian female partner. *-I have been
> in the UK since; this visa was issued April 2000 and expired in April
> 28th 2005 -* . My details follow below:
>
> Age: 39 Years old
> Nationality: UK Citizen
> Residing: In the UK
> Status: Single on application of visa.
>
> Current Partnership, de facto 7 years to a Female Australian Citizen,
> due to get engaged. Pure coincidence!
>
> Previous Visa: Subclass 126, 5 year residency visa multiple travel,
> allowed to stay in Australia indefinitely. Issued 28/05 2000, Expired
> 28/05 2005
>
> Australian residency Dates: 10/1/2001 Â? 4/7/2001 & 23/9/2004 Â?
> 21/12/2004
>
> Assessment of Skills: Management Consultant ASCO 2249-11, Code LH
> Meeting standard in June 1995.
>
> CONNECTION SUPPORT DETAILS
> Australian Address: Friends accommodation, Australian Citizen, I am
> registered currently with Medicare, Tax File and Bank Account since
> January 2000 at an address in Perth.
>
> Tax file number: issued 9/01/2001 never used or claimed through.
> Bank Account: Commonwealth Bank of Australia since Feb 2001, currently
> holding over $ 40 Â? 45,000 for 6 years.
> Medicare card: Valid to 12/ 2007
>
> Business Connections: Do have Australian colleagues/ friends who
> operate a management consultancy training business, where I could
> probably provide through them some sort of contract/ connection
> (backdated), to work for them from the UK and Australia, to cover
> possible reasons further to relationship, why I am currently in the
> UK?
> Suggestions?
>
> Education: Degree in Business & Finance, Postgraduate in Management
> Employment Background: Management Consultant providing financial
> advice, debt and credit counseling, planning and strategic business
> support services to companies and individuals.
>
>
> EMBASSY RESPONSE FROM LONDON, 28TH JUNE 2006[/b]THANK YOU FOR YOUR
> ENQUIRY.
>
> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A RESIDENT RETURN VISA
> (RRV). PLEASE READ THE ATTACHMENT AND COMPLETE FORM 1085. THE FEE IS
> 55 GBP AND THE AVERAGE PROCESSING TIME IS 10 WORKING DAYS.
>
> *SCENARIO 2
> PARTNER DE FACTO/ ENGAGED, MARRYING AN AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN *
>
> I AM CURRENTLY LIVING WITH MY FEMALE PARTNER DE FACTO OF 7 YEARS WHO
> LIVES IN THE UK (SHE BEING AN AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN) AND ARE LOOKING AT
> BECOMING ENGAGED SOON (MYSELF BEING A UK CITIZEN). SHE HAS LIVED AND
> WORKED IN THE UK SINCE 1996, HAVING RETURNED TO AUSTRALIA SEVERAL
> TIMES ON HOLIDAY SINCE THEN. WE ARE LOOKING AT RETURNING TO AUSTRALIA
> TO LIVE AND WORK IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
>
> WHERE DO I STAND ABOUT AND HOW DO I GO ABOUT APPLYING FOR AUSTRALIAN
> CITIZENSHIP ONCE MARRIED, AND ARE THEIR ANY TIME CONSTRAINTS ON
> APPLYING/ GETTING CITIZENSHIP FROM MARRIAGE, IF IN THE UK.
>
> [b]EMBASSY RESPONSE FROM LONDON, 28TH JUNE 2006
>
> DIMA website: www.immi.gov.au
> London website: www.australia.org.uk
> If you are not eligible for a RRV then you should consider Partner
> Migration. If you have been living together in a de facto
> relationship
> (joint cohabitation in a spouse-like relationship) for a minimum of 12
> months then you may be eligible. If you have been in a de facto
> relationship for a minimum of 5 years (or 2 years if you have a child
> together) then you can apply to have the 2 year wait to permanent
> residency waived.
>
> The fee for lodging a spouse application at the London office is 585
> GBP, and the average processing time is 3 - 10 weeks. I've attached
> some information.
>
> CONCLUSION
>
> What interests me on the above is the highlighted response, this seems
> to suggest that I can now at this stage go for residency on a de facto
> relationship of 7 years, even though we are not married or engaged
> just
> yet, while still living in the UK?
> What are your thoughts on this and the visa renewal? Obviously if I
> can
> go down the route of residency quickly, then the de facto relationship
> route, even in the UK, would seem the best option.
>
> I appreciate your advice and time in this matter and look forward to
> all your comments. This could well assist others in the best way of
> renewing RRVs and any other routes, etc!
>
>
> --
> Pozzy


The defacto spouse visa is provided precisely for those who are in a
relationship with an Australian but aren't married. I believe in London
that if you frontload (ie provided police checks, medicals and all the
info they require) they are processed quickly and you can have your visa
within about a week.

By the way you don't get citizenship automatically when you marry an
Aussie, you have to reside in Australia for 2 years on a Permanent
REsidence visa and then apply. This is possibly changing to 3 years from
January however.

Check out the website info: http://www.dimia.gov.au/migrants/partners/spouse/309-
100/index.htm

And the link to the info booklet on partner migration:
http://www.dimia.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1127.pdf

Goodluck!

Jaj

> I am looking for the following advice on the following and the *-best
> way to provide/ present my paperwork/ proof-* before applying and
> filling out any forms, or renewing an expired Resident Return Visa,
> and
> Partner De Facto visa application. Any advice much appreciated above
> and
> beyond the embassy responses below.
>
> SCENARIO 1
> VISA RENEWAL
>
> Is their still a possibility of renewing this migrant visa even at
> this
> stage, as I still have business and financial interest in Australia
> and
> would like to return to live and work.
>
> Further to the above, I have been to and lived in Australia having
> stayed their for almost a year on a full five year migrant visa, in
> the
> last five years *(sub class 126, multiple travel, permitted to remain
> in
> Australia indefinitely, not to arrive after April 2005)* but had to
> return to the UK December 2004, due to family commitments and my
> relationship with my current Australian female partner. *-I have been
> in the UK since; this visa was issued April 2000 and expired in April
> 28th 2005 -* . My details follow below:
>
> Age: 39 Years old
> Nationality: UK Citizen
> Residing: In the UK
> Status: Single on application of visa.
>
> Current Partnership, de facto 7 years to a Female Australian Citizen,
> due to get engaged. Pure coincidence!
>
> Previous Visa: Subclass 126, 5 year residency visa multiple travel,
> allowed to stay in Australia indefinitely. Issued 28/05 2000, Expired
> 28/05 2005
>
> Australian residency Dates: 10/1/2001 Â? 4/7/2001 & 23/9/2004 Â?
> 21/12/2004
>
> Assessment of Skills: Management Consultant ASCO 2249-11, Code LH
> Meeting standard in June 1995.
>
> CONNECTION SUPPORT DETAILS
> Australian Address: Friends accommodation, Australian Citizen, I am
> registered currently with Medicare, Tax File and Bank Account since
> January 2000 at an address in Perth.
>
> Tax file number: issued 9/01/2001 never used or claimed through.
> Bank Account: Commonwealth Bank of Australia since Feb 2001, currently
> holding over $ 40 Â? 45,000 for 6 years.
> Medicare card: Valid to 12/ 2007
>
> Business Connections: Do have Australian colleagues/ friends who
> operate a management consultancy training business, where I could
> probably provide through them some sort of contract/ connection
> (backdated), to work for them from the UK and Australia, to cover
> possible reasons further to relationship, why I am currently in the
> UK?
> Suggestions?
>
> Education: Degree in Business & Finance, Postgraduate in Management
> Employment Background: Management Consultant providing financial
> advice, debt and credit counseling, planning and strategic business
> support services to companies and individuals.
>
>
> EMBASSY RESPONSE FROM LONDON, 28TH JUNE 2006[/b]THANK YOU FOR YOUR
> ENQUIRY.
>
> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A RESIDENT RETURN VISA
> (RRV). PLEASE READ THE ATTACHMENT AND COMPLETE FORM 1085. THE FEE IS
> 55 GBP AND THE AVERAGE PROCESSING TIME IS 10 WORKING DAYS.
>
> *SCENARIO 2
> PARTNER DE FACTO/ ENGAGED, MARRYING AN AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN *
>
> I AM CURRENTLY LIVING WITH MY FEMALE PARTNER DE FACTO OF 7 YEARS WHO
> LIVES IN THE UK (SHE BEING AN AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN) AND ARE LOOKING AT
> BECOMING ENGAGED SOON (MYSELF BEING A UK CITIZEN). SHE HAS LIVED AND
> WORKED IN THE UK SINCE 1996, HAVING RETURNED TO AUSTRALIA SEVERAL
> TIMES ON HOLIDAY SINCE THEN. WE ARE LOOKING AT RETURNING TO AUSTRALIA
> TO LIVE AND WORK IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
>
> WHERE DO I STAND ABOUT AND HOW DO I GO ABOUT APPLYING FOR AUSTRALIAN
> CITIZENSHIP ONCE MARRIED, AND ARE THEIR ANY TIME CONSTRAINTS ON
> APPLYING/ GETTING CITIZENSHIP FROM MARRIAGE, IF IN THE UK.
>
> [b]EMBASSY RESPONSE FROM LONDON, 28TH JUNE 2006
>
> DIMA website: www.immi.gov.au
> London website: www.australia.org.uk
> If you are not eligible for a RRV then you should consider Partner
> Migration. If you have been living together in a de facto
> relationship
> (joint cohabitation in a spouse-like relationship) for a minimum of 12
> months then you may be eligible. If you have been in a de facto
> relationship for a minimum of 5 years (or 2 years if you have a child
> together) then you can apply to have the 2 year wait to permanent
> residency waived.
>
> The fee for lodging a spouse application at the London office is 585
> GBP, and the average processing time is 3 - 10 weeks. I've attached
> some information.
>
> CONCLUSION
>
> What interests me on the above is the highlighted response, this seems
> to suggest that I can now at this stage go for residency on a de facto
> relationship of 7 years, even though we are not married or engaged
> just
> yet, while still living in the UK?
> What are your thoughts on this and the visa renewal? Obviously if I
> can
> go down the route of residency quickly, then the de facto relationship
> route, even in the UK, would seem the best option.
>
> I appreciate your advice and time in this matter and look forward to
> all your comments. This could well assist others in the best way of
> renewing RRVs and any other routes, etc!
>
>
> --
> Pozzy


If you could get an RRV on concessional grounds this would be cheaper
and quicker than a spouse visa.

However you should really contact a good UK based agent to discuss your
options. Ian Harrop is a reputable agent in Britain:
http://www.ianharrop.co.uk

Pozzy

Many thanks for the advice and tips on agents, I will follow this up.
Any tips on what would constitute good concessional grounds?

Pozzy

Thanks for the info and links on De Facto Relationship, what are your
views on the embassy response about possibly having the 2 year wait to
permanent residency waived, if in a De fact Relationship over 5 years?


Does this possibly mean that I can apply for citizenship before the
standard 2 year wait?

Jaj

> Many thanks for the advice and tips on agents, I will follow this up.
> Any tips on what would constitute good concessional grounds?
>
>
> --
> Pozzy


Start by reading form 968i:
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/968i.pdf

But get professional advice - if you have a weak case, it's probably
better not to waste time applying if you can permanent residence
another way.

Jaj

> Thanks for the info and links on De Facto Relationship, what are your
> views on the embassy response about possibly having the 2 year wait to
> permanent residency waived, if in a De fact Relationship over 5 years?
>
>
> Does this possibly mean that I can apply for citizenship before the
> standard 2 year wait?
>
>
> --
> Pozzy


It's in line with the law.




No. And the 2 years is likely to become 3 years sometime in 2007.
There may be some additional concessions for spouses and some de-facto
partners against the 3 year wait, but you'll need to wait and see.