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Old 11-22-2006, 06:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
Opheliablotch
 
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Default K1 or K3

Hey all

My fiance and I are trying to figure out the best route to take for my
immigration status. We are a bit confused.

Being in the US at the minute on a B2 visa [1week left on I-94] we
thought that it might be possible to go ahead and have a civil ceremony,
file the I-130, await the receipt, then file the I-129F for the K3. The
problem is I wish to return home for the holidays and a couple of other
important events.

Does anyone know if it is possible to still proceed with a K3 visa
application from abroad if the marriage took place in the US? [The
petition itself is filed in US]. The website is confusing as it states
, "....The embassy or consulate where you, the spouse of an American
citizen, will apply for a K-3 visa must be in the country where your
marriage took place...." Does this mean that if my parter files the K3
petition then if I go home I would not be able to apply for the visa
itself as the marriage wouldn't have occurred there?

Or, would we just be better to apply for the K1 Fiance Visa?

Thanks for any thoughts on this soon would be great.
Ophelia
 

Old 11-22-2006, 07:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
Meauxna
 
Posts: 5158
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> Hey all
>
> My fiance and I are trying to figure out the best route to take for my
> immigration status. We are a bit confused.
>
> Being in the US at the minute on a B2 visa [1week left on I-94] we
> thought that it might be possible to go ahead and have a civil
> ceremony, file the I-130, await the receipt, then file the I-129F for
> the K3. The problem is I wish to return home for the holidays and a
> couple of other important events.
>
> Does anyone know if it is possible to still proceed with a K3 visa
> application from abroad if the marriage took place in the US? [The
> petition itself is filed in US]. The website is confusing as it
> states , "....The embassy or consulate where you, the spouse of an
> American citizen, will apply for a K-3 visa must be in the country
> where your marriage took place...." Does this mean that if my parter
> files the K3 petition then if I go home I would not be able to apply
> for the visa itself as the marriage wouldn't have occurred there?
>
> Or, would we just be better to apply for the K1 Fiance Visa?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts on this soon would be great.
> Ophelia

For a K-3, if the marriage took place in the US, then the visa
application will go through the country of your primary residence (it's
in the small print if you keep reading).

You might look at the interview wait times for your country to see if
there is a difference between a K and an Immigrant Visa interview wait.
And don't neglect studying the Immigrant Visa option--the K-3 might
never come through and you should know the steps for the IV as well.
 
Old 11-22-2006, 07:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
Noorah101
 
Posts: 12637
Default Re: K1 or K3

> Hey all
>
> My fiance and I are trying to figure out the best route to take for my
> immigration status. We are a bit confused.
>
> Being in the US at the minute on a B2 visa [1week left on I-94] we
> thought that it might be possible to go ahead and have a civil
> ceremony, file the I-130, await the receipt, then file the I-129F for
> the K3. The problem is I wish to return home for the holidays and a
> couple of other important events.
>
> Does anyone know if it is possible to still proceed with a K3 visa
> application from abroad if the marriage took place in the US? [The
> petition itself is filed in US]. The website is confusing as it
> states , "....The embassy or consulate where you, the spouse of an
> American citizen, will apply for a K-3 visa must be in the country
> where your marriage took place...." Does this mean that if my parter
> files the K3 petition then if I go home I would not be able to apply
> for the visa itself as the marriage wouldn't have occurred there?
>
> Or, would we just be better to apply for the K1 Fiance Visa?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts on this soon would be great.
> Ophelia

Hi Ophelia,

The choice is yours whether to go for the K-1 or K-3. But yes, it's
possible to marry in the USA, and then continue the process. The
scenario you describe in the 2nd paragraph is the right approach. You
might even have your I-130 processed faster than the I-129F, and end up
with an immigrant visa interview instead, which is far better.

Best Wishes,
Rene
 
Old 11-23-2006, 01:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
Opheliablotch
 
Posts: 6
Default Re: K1 or K3

> Hi Ophelia,
>
> The choice is yours whether to go for the K-1 or K-3. But yes, it's
> possible to marry in the USA, and then continue the process. The
> scenario you describe in the 2nd paragraph is the right approach. You
> might even have your I-130 processed faster than the I-129F, and end
> up with an immigrant visa interview instead, which is far better.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Rene

Thanks very much to both of you for responding to my queries.

We really want to make sure that we do everything properly and not break
any regulations. I was deeply surprised when we asked the immigration
officials at their reaction - which was to just go get married right
now, and stay in the country- I had thought that being on a B2 would've
totally prevented this.

Anyway - we are now wondering that if we just go ahead with the civil
ceremony - saving the bigger church thing until later - that this in
itself might cause problems given that we only have a few days now in
which to pull it together, file the I-130, and most of our
friends/relatives would not be in attendance. For this reason we are
thinking that the safe bet is to go the K1 route.

Any further thoughts? [I've heard that its taking K3 about the same
length of time to process as K1 - so I'm not sure which to go for]

best wishes
ophelia
 
Old 11-23-2006, 01:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
Ian-Mstm
 
Posts: 6030
Default Re: K1 or K3

> Thanks very much to both of you for responding to my queries.
>
> We really want to make sure that we do everything properly and not
> break any regulations. I was deeply surprised when we asked the
> immigration officials at their reaction - which was to just go get
> married right now, and stay in the country- I had thought that being
> on a B2 would've totally prevented this.
>
> Anyway - we are now wondering that if we just go ahead with the civil
> ceremony - saving the bigger church thing until later - that this in
> itself might cause problems given that we only have a few days now in
> which to pull it together, file the I-130, and most of our
> friends/relatives would not be in attendance. For this reason we are
> thinking that the safe bet is to go the K1 route.
>
> Any further thoughts? [I've heard that its taking K3 about the same
> length of time to process as K1 - so I'm not sure which to go for]
>
> best wishes
> ophelia

The biggest difference, all else being equal, is the separation. You
will be apart for some period of time... so it's really a matter of
whether this happens before you're married, or after you're married.
Personally, I think before is better... but that's just me.

Ian
 
Old 11-23-2006, 02:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
Noorah101
 
Posts: 12637
Default Re: K1 or K3

> The biggest difference, all else being equal, is the separation. You
> will be apart for some period of time... so it's really a matter of
> whether this happens before you're married, or after you're married.
> Personally, I think before is better... but that's just me.
>
> Ian

Hi Ophelia,

There are pros and cons for both the K1 and the K3 (or IV immigrant
visa, which you may get even sooner than a K3).

The K-1 is easier to take care of NOW, as far as filing the paperwork.
But it means more paperwork later on for AOS, once you come to the USA.

The Immigrant Visa (with the K-3 as a backup plan) is a far better visa
to get, as it means no AOS here in the USA. But it would mean some
rushing around to get married NOW.

You don't have to be here in the USA when your fiance files any of the
paperwork, so it really comes down to which way you prefer to go....rush
now and be married, with a better visa to enter the USA in the long
run....or take your time, be engaged for a while, and plan a proper
wedding for when you return on your K-1.

Really, the choice is totally yours.

Best Wishes,
Rene
 
Old 11-23-2006, 02:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
Elvira
 
Posts: 2182
Default Re: K1 or K3

> Thanks very much to both of you for responding to my queries.
>
> We really want to make sure that we do everything properly and not
> break any regulations. I was deeply surprised when we asked the
> immigration officials at their reaction - which was to just go get
> married right now, and stay in the country- I had thought that being
> on a B2 would've totally prevented this.
>
> Anyway - we are now wondering that if we just go ahead with the civil
> ceremony - saving the bigger church thing until later - that this in
> itself might cause problems given that we only have a few days now in
> which to pull it together, file the I-130, and most of our
> friends/relatives would not be in attendance. For this reason we are
> thinking that the safe bet is to go the K1 route.
>
> Any further thoughts? [I've heard that its taking K3 about the same
> length of time to process as K1 - so I'm not sure which to go for]
>
> best wishes
> ophelia

The problem with the immigration officer's advice - to get married and
stay in the US and file for AOS - is that you would not be able to make
it home for Christmas. You would need to get Advance Parole, which can
take 2-3 months to get (and, of course, you would have to be able to
file all your other AOS paperwork at the same time, and getting all that
together can take a while).
 
Old 11-24-2006, 08:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
Opheliablotch
 
Posts: 6
Default Re: K1 or K3

> Hi Ophelia,
>
> There are pros and cons for both the K1 and the K3 (or IV immigrant
> visa, which you may get even sooner than a K3).
>
> The K-1 is easier to take care of NOW, as far as filing the
> paperwork. But it means more paperwork later on for AOS, once you
> come to the USA.
>
> The Immigrant Visa (with the K-3 as a backup plan) is a far better
> visa to get, as it means no AOS here in the USA. But it would mean
> some rushing around to get married NOW.
>
> You don't have to be here in the USA when your fiance files any of the
> paperwork, so it really comes down to which way you prefer to
> go....rush now and be married, with a better visa to enter the USA in
> the long run....or take your time, be engaged for a while, and plan a
> proper wedding for when you return on your K-1.
>
> Really, the choice is totally yours.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Rene

Hi
We've finally decided to file the petition for a K1 visa, given the
short period of time its best to do this properly.

My question becomes then, do you have any ideas on what to put in a
statement of intent; how many photos/emails to send. My partner and I
have been together for 3years now and have been commuting back and
forward up till this year.

Similarly what questions am I likely to be asked at the consular visa
interview stage. I am concerned that as my divorce only came through in
June this year then this might cause problems.

Thanks again for all the excellent help and advice
 
Old 11-24-2006, 09:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
Noorah101
 
Posts: 12637
Default Re: K1 or K3

> Hi
> We've finally decided to file the petition for a K1 visa, given the
> short period of time its best to do this properly.
>
> My question becomes then, do you have any ideas on what to put in a
> statement of intent; how many photos/emails to send. My partner and I
> have been together for 3years now and have been commuting back and
> forward up till this year.
>
> Similarly what questions am I likely to be asked at the consular visa
> interview stage. I am concerned that as my divorce only came through
> in June this year then this might cause problems.
>
> Thanks again for all the excellent help and advice

The statement of intent can just be a simple paragraph stating who
you are, and that you intend to marry within 90 days of the
immigrant's arrival on the K-1 visa. It can be one paragraph which
both of you sign.

With the I-129F petition, send copies of photographs of both of you
together, really just the ones showing that you've seen each other
within the past 2 years are relevent now. When you go to the interview,
bring pictures from all 3 years.

With the I-129F petition, send proof that you've met within the past 2
years, such as plane ticket stubs, passport stamps, travel
itineraries, etc.

At the interview you'll be asked about your relationship, your intent,
and to show original evidence. Just be honest and answer only the
questions asked, don't offer more information on your own.

Best Wishes,
Rene
 
Old 11-24-2006, 09:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
Ian-Mstm
 
Posts: 6030
Default Re: K1 or K3

> Hi
> We've finally decided to file the petition for a K1 visa, given the
> short period of time its best to do this properly.
>
> My question becomes then, do you have any ideas on what to put in a
> statement of intent; how many photos/emails to send. My partner and I
> have been together for 3years now and have been commuting back and
> forward up till this year.
>
> Similarly what questions am I likely to be asked at the consular visa
> interview stage. I am concerned that as my divorce only came through
> in June this year then this might cause problems.
>
> Thanks again for all the excellent help and advice

No, it won't.

Ian
 
 


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