Jarrod

Dear All,

The FBI clearance form (FD-258) that I downloaded from the FBI website
has been rejected. The reason for this was that only the 'original
thick double-sided form' (the ones ordered directly from the FBI) is
allegedly considered to be original, as told to me by my case officer.
If this is the case then the normal printing paper I used to print the
above form would certainly be rejected although FBI did accept it and
sent me the document with the clearance results (with no records
stamped on the back); they were the ones who informed me of the
process of downloading from the website when I had called them to
order the forms. Once received from the FBI this same document then
was forwarded to my case officer. I am not doubting my case officer
here at all as she decides what is appropriate and what not, but I
just want to be absolutely sure that my form is indeed unacceptable in
the eyes of DIMIA regulations. Although there is no problem in doing
another FBI clearance time will undobutedly disrupt some of my
important future plans. So, I would be very appreciative if someone
can share their experience- that is, if their FBI clearance was
successfully processed with the form downloaded from the internet. Or
if any Experts know whether certain regulation exists for this kind of
matter. Thank you!

TIA,
Jarrod

Saraliz

    > Dear All,
    > The FBI clearance form (FD-258) that I downloaded from the FBI website
    > has been rejected. The reason for this was that only the 'original
    > thick double-sided form' (the ones ordered directly from the FBI) is
    > allegedly considered to be original, as told to me by my case officer.
    > If this is the case then the normal printing paper I used to print the
    > above form would certainly be rejected although FBI did accept it and
    > sent me the document with the clearance results (with no records
    > stamped on the back); they were the ones who informed me of the
    > process of downloading from the website when I had called them to
    > order the forms. Once received from the FBI this same document then
    > was forwarded to my case officer. I am not doubting my case officer
    > here at all as she decides what is appropriate and what not, but I
    > just want to be absolutely sure that my form is indeed unacceptable in
    > the eyes of DIMIA regulations. Although there is no problem in doing
    > another FBI clearance time will undobutedly disrupt some of my
    > important future plans. So, I would be very appreciative if someone
    > can share their experience- that is, if their FBI clearance was
    > successfully processed with the form downloaded from the internet. Or
    > if any Experts know whether certain regulation exists for this kind of
    > matter. Thank you!
    > TIA,
    > Jarrod

Seems a bit strange to me...

I didn't submit the official FBI form FD-258, but instead submitted my
prints on the form used by my local police (which was also a thick double-
sided form) - this was acceptable to DIMIA.

Just had a look at the FAQ on the FBI website
(http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/faqs.html) & found this...

"7. Can I use the fingerprint card I download from this site?

Yes, the CJIS Division will accept the downloaded paper fingerprint card
only for the purpose of requesting a FBI Identification Record for
personal review. Although, if you go to a law enforcement agency or
private fingerprinting agency to be fingerprinted they may prefer to use
a fingerprint card on standard card stock. You may use the fingerprint
card provided by the printing agency. "

I'm not quite sure what they mean by "personal review"... whether they
mean a personal request (rather than a request through an agency) or for
"unofficial use" rather than "official use". Logic would say that if
they have said that you have no criminal record, that would be enough
for DIMIA.

Ozanand2004

    > Dear All,
    > The FBI clearance form (FD-258) that I downloaded from the FBI website
    > has been rejected. The reason for this was that only the 'original
    > thick double-sided form' (the ones ordered directly from the FBI) is
    > allegedly considered to be original, as told to me by my case officer.
    > If this is the case then the normal printing paper I used to print the
    > above form would certainly be rejected although FBI did accept it and
    > sent me the document with the clearance results (with no records
    > stamped on the back); they were the ones who informed me of the
    > process of downloading from the website when I had called them to
    > order the forms. Once received from the FBI this same document then
    > was forwarded to my case officer. I am not doubting my case officer
    > here at all as she decides what is appropriate and what not, but I
    > just want to be absolutely sure that my form is indeed unacceptable in
    > the eyes of DIMIA regulations. Although there is no problem in doing
    > another FBI clearance time will undobutedly disrupt some of my
    > important future plans. So, I would be very appreciative if someone
    > can share their experience- that is, if their FBI clearance was
    > successfully processed with the form downloaded from the internet. Or
    > if any Experts know whether certain regulation exists for this kind of
    > matter. Thank you!
    > TIA,
    > Jarrod

I submitted the original 'thick' double-sided FD-258 form that I got
from the local police station. They took my finger-printso n that card
and I sent it to CJIS, and yes, the CO did accept the form.. HTH..Check
with ur local police station for the FD-258.. All the best !

Doug D

On 15 Dec 2004 04:39:03 -0800, (jarrod) wrote:

    >Dear All,
    >The FBI clearance form (FD-258) that I downloaded from the FBI website
    >has been rejected. The reason for this was that only the 'original
    >thick double-sided form' (the ones ordered directly from the FBI) is
    >allegedly considered to be original, as told to me by my case officer.
    >If this is the case then the normal printing paper I used to print the
    >above form would certainly be rejected although FBI did accept it and
    >sent me the document with the clearance results (with no records
    >stamped on the back); they were the ones who informed me of the
    >process of downloading from the website when I had called them to
    >order the forms. Once received from the FBI this same document then
    >was forwarded to my case officer. I am not doubting my case officer
    >here at all as she decides what is appropriate and what not, but I
    >just want to be absolutely sure that my form is indeed unacceptable in
    >the eyes of DIMIA regulations. Although there is no problem in doing
    >another FBI clearance time will undobutedly disrupt some of my
    >important future plans. So, I would be very appreciative if someone
    >can share their experience- that is, if their FBI clearance was
    >successfully processed with the form downloaded from the internet. Or
    >if any Experts know whether certain regulation exists for this kind of
    >matter. Thank you!
    >TIA,
    >Jarrod

The site below provides a pdf copy of the standard finger print form.
It
states, on page 2 of the pdf document that a plain paper copy of this
form
is acceptable to the FBI for background checks. I used this form and
took
a copy of it to the county sheriff's dept. in St. Johns County,
Florida
where they finger printed me at my request (free of charge, no less).
I
then sent the finger print results and a cover letter to the FBI, got
a
reply with a simple statement telling me to look at the back of the
finger
print form for their findings where a stamp said "No arrest record"
and
included a stamped date. I then forwarded these results to the
Immigration
Dept. at the Australian Embassy in Washington where they were
subsequently
approved.

So, obviously there is an inconsistency in the way at least two case
agents
(yours and mine) treated the copy of the finger print form for
migration
purposes. I'd suggest you copy the entire pdf document off the FBI
site
below, particularly the page saying the plain paper form is acceptable
to
the FBI for routine background checks and send it along with a cover
letter
to the AU embassy. You could also email this info. to the embassy if
you'd
prefer. If you don't have the email address, call the U.S. / Canada
Help
phone number, explain your problem and ask for the immigration
section's
email address. Be sure and include your migration file number with
your
correspondence. If all this fails, you might consider asking the Help
person, as a follow up, if there is someone you could go to within the
embassy to have your data reconsidered. I understand the prickly
situation
of not wanting to piss off your case worker, but I also can understand
your
not wanting to go thru the entire background check again due to the
lengthy
wait of perhaps another 2 months. Good luck.

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/PDF/fpcardb.pdf

Doug

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