Samanta

U know the thing that ticks me off is how cic makes the outside world
believe that they oh so need IT guys and computer experts very badly...
when the easiest jobs to find are accounting/finance jobs... at any
level... look at any websites it proves my point...

Any one with a C average in Accounts can easily register with CGA pay
about $300 for their transcript evaluated and get into at least CGA
level 3... which gets u into the door for some great start up jobs pays
about (35,000-40,000) to start... gppd cdn experience until u complete
it and then oh boy are u in demand...

but oh that so great cdn experience... they are hoping by then u picked
up the "eh" at the end of every sentence after a few yrs of work...(just
kidding):>

happy holidays everyone

hope the new years brings us all good luck, happiness and find us in
canada picking out those beautiful pine trees to decorate next yr( i
am from the west indies no pine trees here...)

samanta

Bhaskar

    > U know the thing that ticks me off is how cic makes the outside world
    > believe that they oh so need IT guys and computer experts very badly...
    > when the easiest jobs to find are accounting/finance jobs... at any
    > level... look at any websites it proves my point...
    >
    > samanta

That is because people including cic/govt officials have had so much
of hi-tech "kool aid" in the bubble years of 90s that they arent
willing to believe that the party is over. They think perhaps it needs
a
different flavor.

It is the "next day hangover" after the party of 90s

Singhpro

35-40K is a great job ? If you live in Toronto your take home after all
taxes for a 35 K job will be around 23-25 K Cdn, which is approx 16K US$
a year,,,,which is below poverty level in the US.



just facts.







Originally posted by Samanta

    > U know the thing that ticks me off is how cic makes the outside world
    > believe that they oh so need IT guys and computer experts very
    > badly... when the easiest jobs to find are accounting/finance jobs...
    > at any level... look at any websites it proves my point...

    > Any one with a C average in Accounts can easily register with CGA pay
    > about $300 for their transcript evaluated and get into at least CGA
    > level 3... which gets u into the door for some great start up jobs
    > pays about (35,000-40,000) to start... gppd cdn experience until u
    > complete it and then oh boy are u in demand...

    > but oh that so great cdn experience... they are hoping by then u
    > picked up the "eh" at the end of every sentence after a few yrs of
    > work...(just kidding):>

    > happy holidays everyone

    > hope the new years brings us all good luck, happiness and find us in
    > canada picking out those beautiful pine trees to decorate next yr( i
    > am from the west indies no pine trees here...)

samanta

Samanta

Singh

i said great start up jobs... and trust me unless u have a masters or in
some specialize field... its not as easy to obtain a job and work about
$40000 to start with no cdn experience... that is just facts living in
canada....

and as for the states... u need to take into account cost of living of
us an cdn. ... for a single person 40000 is ok to start with...

i take it u didnt really look into the cdn job market as yet

Bryan Kellar

Hi Samanta!

It's Christmas, (well, it is still Christmas eve where I am, but anyway) I'm
not doing too much right now. The fact that I am reading this newsgroup on
Christmas eve might give you a hint. May I tell you a story from my point
of view?

    > U know the thing that ticks me off is how cic makes the outside world
    > believe that they oh so need IT guys and computer experts very badly...
    > when the easiest jobs to find are accounting/finance jobs... at any
    > level... look at any websites it proves my point...

I am the "lucky guy". I'm in the US, and dearly want to eventually move to
Canada. No, my grown stepson is the IT whiz. I am a 41 year old
accountant. On the above point you make, I am thrilled to be in the
profession I am in. The occasional issue of the Vancouver Sun that makes it
this far south is full of ads for all types of accountants. I know I will
find something.
    > Any one with a C average in Accounts can easily register with CGA pay
    > about $300 for their transcript evaluated and get into at least CGA
    > level 3... which gets u into the door for some great start up jobs pays
    > about (35,000-40,000) to start... gppd cdn experience until u complete
    > it and then oh boy are u in demand...

Yes, but the devil seems to be in the details. The word "accountant" covers
a lot of ground. Frankly, that "great" startup job in that price range that
one could get if they are in Level 3 of the CGA program is a couple of steps
back from where I am now. Of course, that will likely be my first job in
Canada, though.

My specific problem: I am in a specialty that might be difficult to
transfer. I am a tax accountant, have been for 12 years; my license in the
US, while nationally recognized south of the border, does not have an
equivalent in Canada. (In a nutshell, I know taxes better than most CPA's,
I direct those who keep the books and give business advice to small and
mid-sized companies, but I am not licensed to audit their books.)

So, yes, at the very basic level, what you say is true. The problem is,
even if I were a US CPA, I would STILL have to take the last four classes of
the CGA program and write their exams to actually become a CGA. Whether
this is a good or bad deal is in the eyes of the beholder. And, I can't
start that process until I am actually landed. (Or one can be on a student
visa, but I don't have that kind of money or time.)

This certainly is not unsurmountable, but the decision to immigrate will not
cause a leap in my career in the near term, by any means. There is a lot of
regulation betwen me and one of those jobs listed in the Sun.

    > but oh that so great cdn experience... they are hoping by then u picked
    > up the "eh" at the end of every sentence after a few yrs of work...(just
    > kidding):>

I look at it this way -- if I end up driving a taxicab, I will meet a lot of
Canadians and will be living in the country I love. : )

A second thought: In my life, I have often tried to guess what I would be
doing 10 years "from now". I have not got it right yet. Who knows what the
future will hold.
    > happy holidays everyone
    > hope the new years brings us all good luck, happiness and find us in
    > canada picking out those beautiful pine trees to decorate next yr( i
    > am from the west indies no pine trees here...)

Happy holidays, all. May many of us meet in Canada this year...

Bryan

\"Half-Canadian\

    > I look at it this way -- if I end up driving a taxicab, I will meet a lot
of
    > Canadians and will be living in the country I love. : )
    > A second thought: In my life, I have often tried to guess what I would be
    > doing 10 years "from now". I have not got it right yet. Who knows what
the
    > future will hold.

    > Happy holidays, all. May many of us meet in Canada this year...
    > Bryan

Happy holidays to you too, Bryan. As you and I have discussed here many
times, relocating to Canada in a regulated profession such as yours or mine
is not always easy or financially prudent (especially at the midpoint of
one's career), but to me, it was worth every sacrifice. Tomorrow will be my
fifth Christmas in Canada, and my second as a Canadian citizen.

Bonne chance to you in the new year!
Laurie in BC

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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:07:35 +0000, SinghPro
<member17347@british_expats.com> wrote:

    >35-40K is a great job ? If you live in Toronto your take home after all
    >taxes for a 35 K job will be around 23-25 K Cdn, which is approx 16K US$
    >a year,,,,which is below poverty level in the US.

...or you could be unemployed in IT. I guess it's personal choice.
The IT industry is all young people. Other professions are primarily
boomers. The demand for employees over the next 15 years will be
heavy in the other professions due to retiring boomers.

    >just facts.
    >Originally posted by Samanta
    >> U know the thing that ticks me off is how cic makes the outside world
    >> believe that they oh so need IT guys and computer experts very
    >> badly... when the easiest jobs to find are accounting/finance jobs...
    >> at any level... look at any websites it proves my point...
    >> Any one with a C average in Accounts can easily register with CGA pay
    >> about $300 for their transcript evaluated and get into at least CGA
    >> level 3... which gets u into the door for some great start up jobs
    >> pays about (35,000-40,000) to start... gppd cdn experience until u
    >> complete it and then oh boy are u in demand...
    >> but oh that so great cdn experience... they are hoping by then u
    >> picked up the "eh" at the end of every sentence after a few yrs of
    >> work...(just kidding):>
    >> happy holidays everyone
    >> hope the new years brings us all good luck, happiness and find us in
    >> canada picking out those beautiful pine trees to decorate next yr( i
    >> am from the west indies no pine trees here...)
    >samanta