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Old 08-09-2007, 07:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
2marzipan2
 
Posts: 4
Default Filing a complaint against a visiting foreign national

Need some assistance, if anyone can help... please do....

I am needing to file a complaint against a foreign national here on a
visitor's visa. He is waiting for his permanent residency visa to
come in.

He went into partnership with my mother and conned her into going into
an LLC so that he can obtain his visa. In the course of events, he
had run the company bankrupt after 2 weeks of opening and stole $15K
of company money and fled the country. We have been in mediation for
the past month to recoup some money, but he has the attitude of "catch
me if you can if you want your money".

I believe this guy is a scam artist. He conned my mother and got away
with it. Long story short, I'd like to write an extensive complaint
on this guy and address it to INS. They need to red flag his
application and not grant this criminal his visa. At this moment, he
is back in his home country, but I want to make it difficult for him
to ever set foot on this land again. It could be your mother that he
cons next of her life's savings.

I am willing to write a complaint to any department that will red flag
his visa. Any info would be so much appreciated!

Thank you.
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
Jim R Studdard
 
Posts: 17
Default Re: Filing a complaint against a visiting foreign national

Haven't you heard of filing charges in court?


"2marzipan2" <> wrote in message
news:...
| Need some assistance, if anyone can help... please do....
|
| I am needing to file a complaint against a foreign national here on a
| visitor's visa. He is waiting for his permanent residency visa to
| come in.
|
| He went into partnership with my mother and conned her into going into
| an LLC so that he can obtain his visa. In the course of events, he
| had run the company bankrupt after 2 weeks of opening and stole $15K
| of company money and fled the country. We have been in mediation for
| the past month to recoup some money, but he has the attitude of "catch
| me if you can if you want your money".
|
| I believe this guy is a scam artist. He conned my mother and got away
| with it. Long story short, I'd like to write an extensive complaint
| on this guy and address it to INS. They need to red flag his
| application and not grant this criminal his visa. At this moment, he
| is back in his home country, but I want to make it difficult for him
| to ever set foot on this land again. It could be your mother that he
| cons next of her life's savings.
|
| I am willing to write a complaint to any department that will red flag
| his visa. Any info would be so much appreciated!
|
| Thank you.
|
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
Rete
 
Posts: 9736
Default Re: Filing a complaint against a visiting foreign national

> Need some assistance, if anyone can help... please do....
>
> I am needing to file a complaint against a foreign national here on a
> visitor's visa. He is waiting for his permanent residency visa to
> come in.
>
> He went into partnership with my mother and conned her into going into
> an LLC so that he can obtain his visa. In the course of events, he
> had run the company bankrupt after 2 weeks of opening and stole $15K
> of company money and fled the country. We have been in mediation for
> the past month to recoup some money, but he has the attitude of "catch
> me if you can if you want your money".
>
> I believe this guy is a scam artist. He conned my mother and got away
> with it. Long story short, I'd like to write an extensive complaint
> on this guy and address it to INS. They need to red flag his
> application and not grant this criminal his visa. At this moment, he
> is back in his home country, but I want to make it difficult for him
> to ever set foot on this land again. It could be your mother that he
> cons next of her life's savings.
>
> I am willing to write a complaint to any department that will red flag
> his visa. Any info would be so much appreciated!
>
> Thank you.

INS which does not exist any longer, it is now the USCIS, is not the
agency you want to contact. You can file a letter complaint with ICE
and also send a letter to the US Consulate in his own country. This
would be helpful if it is not a visa waiver country and requires that he
obtains a B-2 visa to enter the US.

Other than that, take it to court where it will be legally filed and
will perhaps be picked up by the FBI for their records for future
name searches.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
Ian-Mstm
 
Posts: 6030
Default Re: Filing a complaint against a visiting foreign national

> Need some assistance, if anyone can help... please do....
>
> I am needing to file a complaint against a foreign national here on a
> visitor's visa. He is waiting for his permanent residency visa to
> come in.
>
> He went into partnership with my mother and conned her into going into
> an LLC so that he can obtain his visa. In the course of events, he
> had run the company bankrupt after 2 weeks of opening and stole $15K
> of company money and fled the country. We have been in mediation for
> the past month to recoup some money, but he has the attitude of "catch
> me if you can if you want your money".
>
> I believe this guy is a scam artist. He conned my mother and got away
> with it. Long story short, I'd like to write an extensive complaint
> on this guy and address it to INS. They need to red flag his
> application and not grant this criminal his visa. At this moment, he
> is back in his home country, but I want to make it difficult for him
> to ever set foot on this land again. It could be your mother that he
> cons next of her life's savings.
>
> I am willing to write a complaint to any department that will red flag
> his visa. Any info would be so much appreciated!
>
> Thank you.

Is your mother willing to file a complaint? I ask only because if *you*
write a complaint, nothing will happen. Nothing will probably happen if
your mom writes either... but for sure nothing will happen if you do.
Why? Because you will be considered a disinterested 3rd party... unless
you are somehow involved in your mother's company, which does not seem
to be the case given what you've written.

Besides, IMHO, this is *not* an immigration issue... it is a tort
action. You see them as related, but they really aren't.

Ian
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
2marzipan2
 
Posts: 4
Default Re: Filing a complaint against a visiting foreign national

We have been in mediation with his attorney. It's gotten no where.
Lots of stalling on his part. Again, he has the luxury of time and
distance while my mother is paying the bills that are coming in. Why
did she get herself in this in the first place you may be asking? His
wife was her friend and they asked her to help them out to start a
life in the U.S. and the business is how they were going to go about
it. My mom always willing to help, did so. Unfortunately, she was
too trusting and the fact that she does not read or write english gave
them an advantage (she has been a U.S. citizen for 35 years). Since
I have uncovered the goings on, I have taken action on my mother's
behalf. Whatever I write, you can believe that it is coming from
her.

We have been advised that we can take this to a civil court, however,
it will take $50K for attorney's fees to maybe win a judgement for
$40K and then you have to try to get the money out of him. If we were
rich and money was not an issue, sure, we'd do it in a heartbeat.
But, it's not the case for us so we have to try to pursue other
avenues, whatever those may be.

We will file papers to take him and his wife to small claims court so
at least we can get out what we can, if they decide to show up. If
they don't then it'll will be a count somewhere on their record, I'm
assuming. All this is new to me and I'm feeling my way in the dark.

__________________________________________________ _________________________________
Besides, IMHO, this is *not* an immigration issue... it is a tort
action. You see them as related, but they really aren't.


Ian
__________________________________________________ _________________________________

I understand that this is *not* an immigration issue, however I'd
still like them to know the kind of people they may be letting into
the country. A scam artist who's out to take honest hard working
American's for their money. It might now prevent him from coming in,
but it might pull his application out and stall it... who know's it's
a beuracracy, I know- but whatever I can do to make it difficult, I
will gladly do.

__________________________________________________ _________________________________
INS which does not exist any longer, it is now the USCIS, is not the
agency you want to contact. You can file a letter complaint with ICE
and also send a letter to the US Consulate in his own country. This
would be helpful if it is not a visa waiver country and requires that
he
obtains a B-2 visa to enter the US.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________

Thanks for this info, Rete, I will surely take this advice. I had
called the ICE and left a verbal complaint with their tipline.
Although, I am fully aware it probably didn't get anywhere.

I should mention that he claims to be a CPA in his home country of the
Netherlands. I'm thinking of writing a formal complaint to their
association- I believe they go by Registered Accountants (RA) and
report him for his conduct.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated.









On Aug 9, 12:24 am, "Jim R Studdard" <yw_rp162...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Haven't you heard of filing charges in court?
>
> "2marzipan2" <eyecandyk...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:...
> | Need some assistance, if anyone can help... please do....
> |
> | I am needing to file a complaint against a foreign national here on a
> | visitor's visa. He is waiting for his permanent residency visa to
> | come in.
> |
> | He went into partnership with my mother and conned her into going into
> | an LLC so that he can obtain his visa. In the course of events, he
> | had run the company bankrupt after 2 weeks of opening and stole $15K
> | of company money and fled the country. We have been in mediation for
> | the past month to recoup some money, but he has the attitude of "catch
> | me if you can if you want your money".
> |
> | I believe this guy is a scam artist. He conned my mother and got away
> | with it. Long story short, I'd like to write an extensive complaint
> | on this guy and address it to INS. They need to red flag his
> | application and not grant this criminal his visa. At this moment, he
> | is back in his home country, but I want to make it difficult for him
> | to ever set foot on this land again. It could be your mother that he
> | cons next of her life's savings.
> |
> | I am willing to write a complaint to any department that will red flag
> | his visa. Any info would be so much appreciated!
> |
> | Thank you.
> |
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
amandaf37
 
Posts: 3
Default Re: Filing a complaint against a visiting foreign national

On Aug 9, 6:39 am, ian-mstm <member2...@nomx.britishexpats.com> wrote:
> > Need some assistance, if anyone can help... please do....
>
> > I am needing to file a complaint against a foreign national here on a
> > visitor's visa. He is waiting for his permanent residency visa to
> > come in.
>
> > He went into partnership with my mother and conned her into going into
> > an LLC so that he can obtain his visa. In the course of events, he
> > had run the company bankrupt after 2 weeks of opening and stole $15K
> > of company money and fled the country. We have been in mediation for
> > the past month to recoup some money, but he has the attitude of "catch
> > me if you can if you want your money".
>
> > I believe this guy is a scam artist. He conned my mother and got away
> > with it. Long story short, I'd like to write an extensive complaint
> > on this guy and address it to INS. They need to red flag his
> > application and not grant this criminal his visa. At this moment, he
> > is back in his home country, but I want to make it difficult for him
> > to ever set foot on this land again. It could be your mother that he
> > cons next of her life's savings.
>
> > I am willing to write a complaint to any department that will red flag
> > his visa. Any info would be so much appreciated!
>
> > Thank you.
>
> Is your mother willing to file a complaint? I ask only because if *you*
> write a complaint, nothing will happen. Nothing will probably happen if
> your mom writes either... but for sure nothing will happen if you do.
> Why? Because you will be considered a disinterested 3rd party... unless
> you are somehow involved in your mother's company, which does not seem
> to be the case given what you've written.
>
> Besides, IMHO, this is *not* an immigration issue... it is a tort
> action. You see them as related, but they really aren't.

I think that neither he nor his mother has any proof that he has
conned her.
Most likely, it'd also be a relative who fooled his mother. But
whether he really stole the money or not, who knows? That should be
settled in court. After all, which business partner will not cover
their ass when entering into a busness.

It is obvious that he used the company to obtain a visa and mother
and son are angry about it. Be a little generous. The poor guy just
wanted to come to US.


.
>
> Ian
>
> --
> Posted viahttp://britishexpats.com
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
2marzipan2
 
Posts: 4
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On Aug 9, 12:55 pm, amanda...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 9, 6:39 am, ian-mstm <member2...@nomx.britishexpats.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Need some assistance, if anyone can help... please do....
>
> > > I am needing to file a complaint against a foreign national here on a
> > > visitor's visa. He is waiting for his permanent residency visa to
> > > come in.
>
> > > He went into partnership with my mother and conned her into going into
> > > an LLC so that he can obtain his visa. In the course of events, he
> > > had run the company bankrupt after 2 weeks of opening and stole $15K
> > > of company money and fled the country. We have been in mediation for
> > > the past month to recoup some money, but he has the attitude of "catch
> > > me if you can if you want your money".
>
> > > I believe this guy is a scam artist. He conned my mother and got away
> > > with it. Long story short, I'd like to write an extensive complaint
> > > on this guy and address it to INS. They need to red flag his
> > > application and not grant this criminal his visa. At this moment, he
> > > is back in his home country, but I want to make it difficult for him
> > > to ever set foot on this land again. It could be your mother that he
> > > cons next of her life's savings.
>
> > > I am willing to write a complaint to any department that will red flag
> > > his visa. Any info would be so much appreciated!
>
> > > Thank you.
>
> > Is your mother willing to file a complaint? I ask only because if *you*
> > write a complaint, nothing will happen. Nothing will probably happen if
> > your mom writes either... but for sure nothing will happen if you do.
> > Why? Because you will be considered a disinterested 3rd party... unless
> > you are somehow involved in your mother's company, which does not seem
> > to be the case given what you've written.
>
> > Besides, IMHO, this is *not* an immigration issue... it is a tort
> > action. You see them as related, but they really aren't.
>
> I think that neither he nor his mother has any proof that he has
> conned her.
> Most likely, it'd also be a relative who fooled his mother. But
> whether he really stole the money or not, who knows? That should be
> settled in court. After all, which business partner will not cover
> their ass when entering into a busness.
>
> It is obvious that he used the company to obtain a visa and mother
> and son are angry about it. Be a little generous. The poor guy just
> wanted to come to US.


I have proof that he stole the money. I've given him many
opportunities to provide his receipts to back-up the transactions.
Time and time again, he has not provided. Scam artists are good at
what they do, because they do just enough before crossing the legal
line.

I agree, it would be very difficult to prove an intent to defraud.
Daughter and mother are not angry that he used the company to obtain a
visa- this was agreed on in the beginning of the partnership.
Daughter and mother are angry that he spent all the money and bought
himself some nice toys, then decided to go back home so that he didn't
have to repay them leaving my mom to pay the $82K that he spent in 2
months time. >

Anyhow, I'm not here to get bashed on, nor explain the details of the
situation. I am asking for some constructive suggestions on what I
can do, other than going to court which is obvious- to make certain
authorities aware of his activities should he decide to come back and
make a life in the U.S. God forbid he bilk someone else.
> .
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ian
>
> > --
> > Posted viahttp://britishexpats.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
Fay
 
Posts: 4
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2marzipan2 <> wrote in
news::

> Unfortunately, she was
> too trusting and the fact that she does not read or write english gave
> them an advantage (she has been a U.S. citizen for 35 years)

She has been an American for 35 years and cannot read or write! Shame on
her.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
Ian-Mstm
 
Posts: 6030
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> We have been in mediation with his attorney. It's gotten no where.
> Lots of stalling on his part. Again, he has the luxury of time and
> distance while my mother is paying the bills that are coming in. Why
> did she get herself in this in the first place you may be asking? His
> wife was her friend and they asked her to help them out to start a
> life in the U.S. and the business is how they were going to go about
> it. My mom always willing to help, did so. Unfortunately, she was
> too trusting and the fact that she does not read or write english
> gave
> them an advantage (she has been a U.S. citizen for 35 years).
> Since
> I have uncovered the goings on, I have taken action on my
> mother's
> behalf. Whatever I write, you can believe that it is coming from
> her.
>
> We have been advised that we can take this to a civil court, however,
> it will take $50K for attorney's fees to maybe win a judgement for
> $40K and then you have to try to get the money out of him. If we were
> rich and money was not an issue, sure, we'd do it in a heartbeat.
> But, it's not the case for us so we have to try to pursue other
> avenues, whatever those may be.
>
> We will file papers to take him and his wife to small claims court so
> at least we can get out what we can, if they decide to show up. If
> they don't then it'll will be a count somewhere on their record, I'm
> assuming. All this is new to me and I'm feeling my way in the dark.
>
> __________________________________________________ ___________________-
> ______________
> Besides, IMHO, this is *not* an immigration issue... it is a tort
> action. You see them as related, but they really aren't.
>
>
> Ian
> __________________________________________________ ___________________-
> ______________
>
> I understand that this is *not* an immigration issue, however I'd
> still like them to know the kind of people they may be letting into
> the country. A scam artist who's out to take honest hard working
> American's for their money. It might now prevent him from coming in,
> but it might pull his application out and stall it... who know's it's
> a beuracracy, I know- but whatever I can do to make it difficult, I
> will gladly do.
>
> __________________________________________________ ___________________-
> ______________
> INS which does not exist any longer, it is now the USCIS, is not the
> agency you want to contact. You can file a letter complaint with ICE
> and also send a letter to the US Consulate in his own country. This
> would be helpful if it is not a visa waiver country and requires that
> he
> obtains a B-2 visa to enter the US.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________-
> _______________
>
> Thanks for this info, Rete, I will surely take this advice. I had
> called the ICE and left a verbal complaint with their tipline.
> Although, I am fully aware it probably didn't get anywhere.
>
> I should mention that he claims to be a CPA in his home country of the
> Netherlands. I'm thinking of writing a formal complaint to their
> association- I believe they go by Registered Accountants (RA) and
> report him for his conduct.
>
> Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 12:24 am, "Jim R Studdard" <yw_rp162...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Haven't you heard of filing charges in court?
> >
> > "2marzipan2" <eyecandyk...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:...
> > | Need some assistance, if anyone can help... please do....
> > |
> > | I am needing to file a complaint against a foreign national here
> > | on a
> > | visitor's visa. He is waiting for his permanent residency visa to
> > | come in.
> > |
> > | He went into partnership with my mother and conned her into going
> > | into
> > | an LLC so that he can obtain his visa. In the course of events,
> > | he
> > | had run the company bankrupt after 2 weeks of opening and stole
> > | $15K
> > | of company money and fled the country. We have been in mediation
> > | for
> > | the past month to recoup some money, but he has the attitude of
> > | "catch
> > | me if you can if you want your money".
> > |
> > | I believe this guy is a scam artist. He conned my mother and got
> > | away
> > | with it. Long story short, I'd like to write an extensive
> > | complaint
> > | on this guy and address it to INS. They need to red flag his
> > | application and not grant this criminal his visa. At this moment,
> > | he
> > | is back in his home country, but I want to make it difficult for
> > | him
> > | to ever set foot on this land again. It could be your mother that
> > | he
> > | cons next of her life's savings.
> > |
> > | I am willing to write a complaint to any department that will red
> > | flag
> > | his visa. Any info would be so much appreciated!
> > |
> > | Thank you.
> > |

I'm just totally gobsmacked that your mom has been a US citizen for 35
years and hasn't yet learned to read or write English. I have no
sympathy for someone who has willingly contributed to the situation.
She's had plenty of time to learn enough English to protect herself.
Damn it all to hell.

Ian
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
Boiler
 
Posts: 4170
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> I'm just totally gobsmacked that your mom has been a US citizen for 35
> years and hasn't yet learned to read or write English. I have no
> sympathy for someone who has willingly contributed to the situation.
> She's had plenty of time to learn enough English to protect herself.
> Damn it all to hell.
>
> Ian

Fraud is a criminal offence, a Police matter.
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