Stan

For those who plan to evidence the visa in washington through mail,
space out at least 3 weeks to get back the passport. perhaps its just
me. sk868 how about you ?

anyways, yesterday i got my passport with visa stamped on it and
interestingly, there isn't a word about 'condition 8515'. i'm planning
to make the first entry this december heading to melbourne. Is anyone
planning around that timeframe.

Jaj

Even if there is no word about condition 8515 getting married before
validation would be a change of circumstances advisable to DIMIA and
could lead to complications.

Unless it was to a de-facto partner you had included on your
application, or someone who was already an Australian citizen/PR.

Jeremy

    >On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:15:38 GMT, Stan <stan0074@remove_this.comcast.net> wrote:
    >For those who plan to evidence the visa in washington through mail,
    >space out at least 3 weeks to get back the passport. perhaps its just
    >me. sk868 how about you ?
    >anyways, yesterday i got my passport with visa stamped on it and
    >interestingly, there isn't a word about 'condition 8515'. i'm planning
    >to make the first entry this december heading to melbourne. Is anyone
    >planning around that timeframe.
    >--
    >-Stan
    >To reply remove the obvious ones from my email address

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Jn61gda

I sent my passport to Washington on Thursday Sept. 18 by overnight
FedEx. They should have arrived on Friday the 19th, but the embassy
was closed because of the hurricane. The on-line tracking shows they
were received on Monday the 22nd. The visa in our passports show a
date of Wedneday the 24th, and we received them back by overnight UPS
on Thursday the 24th. We are departing in early Dec. for Brisbane.

Stan <stan0074@remove_this.comcast.net> wrote in message news:<3F75D3CA.1050709@remove_this.comcast.net>...
    > For those who plan to evidence the visa in washington through mail,
    > space out at least 3 weeks to get back the passport. perhaps its just
    > me. sk868 how about you ?
    >
    > anyways, yesterday i got my passport with visa stamped on it and
    > interestingly, there isn't a word about 'condition 8515'. i'm planning
    > to make the first entry this december heading to melbourne. Is anyone
    > planning around that timeframe.

Stan

Thanks Jeremy. Though i don't have any plans to get married before my
first entry, i was just wondering what could be the reasons for not
getting 8515 condition. earlier, anecdotal evidences shows that singles
on 136 BN visa class always gets this condition by default, nonetheless
recent visa grants doesn't have these clause by default. perhaps the
condition has become implicit nowadays who knows

Stan

JAJ wrote:
    > Even if there is no word about condition 8515 getting married before
    > validation would be a change of circumstances advisable to DIMIA and
    > could lead to complications.
    >
    > Unless it was to a de-facto partner you had included on your
    > application, or someone who was already an Australian citizen/PR.
    >
    > Jeremy
    >
    >
    >>On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:15:38 GMT, Stan <stan0074@remove_this.comcast.net> wrote:
    >>For those who plan to evidence the visa in washington through mail,
    >>space out at least 3 weeks to get back the passport. perhaps its just
    >>me. sk868 how about you ?
    >>anyways, yesterday i got my passport with visa stamped on it and
    >>interestingly, there isn't a word about 'condition 8515'. i'm planning
    >>to make the first entry this december heading to melbourne. Is anyone
    >>planning around that timeframe.
    >>--
    >>-Stan
    >>To reply remove the obvious ones from my email address
    >
    >
    > This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Stan

wow. so its just for me then

i've blocked the tickets around 19th december but they are in waiting
list and hoping to get it confirmed soon.

Stan

jn61gda wrote:
    > I sent my passport to Washington on Thursday Sept. 18 by overnight
    > FedEx. They should have arrived on Friday the 19th, but the embassy
    > was closed because of the hurricane. The on-line tracking shows they
    > were received on Monday the 22nd. The visa in our passports show a
    > date of Wedneday the 24th, and we received them back by overnight UPS
    > on Thursday the 24th. We are departing in early Dec. for Brisbane.
    >
    > Stan <stan0074@remove_this.comcast.net> wrote in message news:<3F75D3CA.1050709@remove_this.comcast.net>...
    >
    >>For those who plan to evidence the visa in washington through mail,
    >>space out at least 3 weeks to get back the passport. perhaps its just
    >>me. sk868 how about you ?
    >>anyways, yesterday i got my passport with visa stamped on it and
    >>interestingly, there isn't a word about 'condition 8515'. i'm planning
    >>to make the first entry this december heading to melbourne. Is anyone
    >>planning around that timeframe.
    >

Jaj

Hi Stan
It's more than just anecdotal evidence, it was a near universal
practise not so long ago

I can't explain why things appear to have changed. It may simply be
part of Adelaide's learning curve and they will start applying the
policy again universally in the near future. Or maybe there's been a
policy change - these things are not always highlighted.

Condition or not, the change of circumstances issue pre-validation can
still cause complications. I would counsel anyone who has applied for
migration as a single not to change their marital status until *after*
validating their visa even if they have no specific condition 8515 on
their visa.

Jeremy

    >On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:56:03 GMT, Stan <stan0074@remove_this.comcast.net> wrote:
    >Thanks Jeremy. Though i don't have any plans to get married before my
    >first entry, i was just wondering what could be the reasons for not
    >getting 8515 condition. earlier, anecdotal evidences shows that singles
    >on 136 BN visa class always gets this condition by default, nonetheless
    >recent visa grants doesn't have these clause by default. perhaps the
    >condition has become implicit nowadays who knows
    >Stan

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Ptlabs

Originally posted by Jaj

    > It's more than just anecdotal evidence, it was a near universal
    > practise not so long ago

    > <snip>

    > Condition or not, the change of circumstances issue pre-validation can
    > still cause complications. I would counsel anyone who has applied for
    > migration as a single not to change their marital status until *after*
    > validating their visa even if they have no specific condition 8515 on
    > their visa.


    > >On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:56:03 GMT, Stan
    > <stan0074@remove_this.comcast.net> wrote:

    > > earlier, anecdotal evidences shows that singles

    > >on 136 BN visa class always gets this condition by default,
    > nonetheless

    > >recent visa grants doesn't have these clause by default. perhaps
    > the

    > >condition has become implicit nowadays who knows

    >



Jeremy, Stan,



I for one can confirm that Condition 8515 wasn't slapped on me when my
visa was granted, and I was (still am for a few days more!) single at
that time.



Jeremy's recommendation about changing marital status is a prudent one.
Things may get a bit sticky if a person gets married after visa grant
and prior to initial entry - with or without condition 8515.



Peter

Stan

thanks jeremy and ptlabs.

ptlabs wrote:
    > Originally posted by Jaj
    >
    >
    >>It's more than just anecdotal evidence, it was a near universal
    >>practise not so long ago
    >
    >
    >><snip>
    >
    >
    >>Condition or not, the change of circumstances issue pre-validation can
    >>still cause complications. I would counsel anyone who has applied for
    >>migration as a single not to change their marital status until *after*
    >>validating their visa even if they have no specific condition 8515 on
    >>their visa.
    >
    >
    >
    >>>On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:56:03 GMT, Stan
    >> <stan0074@remove_this.comcast.net> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>>earlier, anecdotal evidences shows that singles
    >
    >>>on 136 BN visa class always gets this condition by default,
    >> nonetheless
    >
    >
    >>>recent visa grants doesn't have these clause by default. perhaps
    >> the
    >
    >
    >>>condition has become implicit nowadays who knows
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeremy, Stan,
    >
    >
    >
    > I for one can confirm that Condition 8515 wasn't slapped on me when my
    > visa was granted, and I was (still am for a few days more!) single at
    > that time.
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeremy's recommendation about changing marital status is a prudent one.
    > Things may get a bit sticky if a person gets married after visa grant
    > and prior to initial entry - with or without condition 8515.
    >
    >
    >
    > Peter
    >
    >
    > --
    > This post is an expression of opinion and is neither legal nor immigration advice.
    >
    >
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