The Good Guy

Greetings,

I wanted to know if a landed immigrant from India applies for citizenship
and becomes a citizen of Canada, then does he have to surrender his Indian
passport?

I read somewhere on Internet that India now has dual citizenship pact with
few countries and Canada is one of them.

Any response to my query will be highly appreciated.

Robert

"The Good Guy" <> wrote in message
news:rmCDb.1876$...
    > Greetings,
    > I wanted to know if a landed immigrant from India applies for citizenship
    > and becomes a citizen of Canada, then does he have to surrender his Indian
    > passport?
    > I read somewhere on Internet that India now has dual citizenship pact with
    > few countries and Canada is one of them.
    > Any response to my query will be highly appreciated.
Canada does not insist on people giving up citizenship of other countries
when they become citizens of Canada

Webcrawler

There is no problem from the Canadian side, but the Indian side is still
undecided.
The PM has theoretically approved of the bill and put the weight of the PMO
behind it.
However, I don't think it has been passed by the parliament yet.

Once that happens, the President will need to sign it into law.
Then the administrative and judiciary will come into play to enact
regulations and guidelines for implementing the law.
I would say it is still quite a way away.

For now, to answer your question, yes the person will cease to be an Indian
citizen.

"The Good Guy" <> wrote in message
news:rmCDb.1876$...
    > Greetings,
    > I wanted to know if a landed immigrant from India applies for citizenship
    > and becomes a citizen of Canada, then does he have to surrender his Indian
    > passport?
    > I read somewhere on Internet that India now has dual citizenship pact with
    > few countries and Canada is one of them.
    > Any response to my query will be highly appreciated.

Renee

Is it then difficult to reclaim Indian citizenship if you decide to go back
permanently?

Just curious - my husband is originally from Australia. He moved to Canada
in his teens when his mother married a Canadian citizen and relocated to
Calgary. Once he received Canadian citizenship, Australia would no longer
recognize his Aussie citizenship, but he easily got it back in 1998. He
originally thought he wanted to stay there, but found that Calgary was home
so he returned. I found it surprising that Chris was only back in Australia
for four months, yet he managed to regain his citizenship that quickly - and
without renouncing his Canadian citizenship in the process. (Of course,
he's lost Australian citizenship again since returning permanently to
Canada, but he's not concerned about that).

Renee

Webcrawler

I don't think it will be difficult to reclaim Indian citizenship.
I guess all one would need to show will be a birth certificate.
And of course proof that they have given up the other country's citizenship.

Since India is so much a traditional society still, a returning Indian
citizen can get by quite easily without reclaiming citizenship.
No beaureacratic mess like credit agencies, Social Security, etc.
As long as you can still speak the local language, you are good )

"Renee" <reneeno.spam.@shaw.spamguard.ca> wrote in message
news:b9FDb.729779$9l5.575354@pd7tw2no...
    > Is it then difficult to reclaim Indian citizenship if you decide to go
back
    > permanently?
    > Just curious - my husband is originally from Australia. He moved to
Canada
    > in his teens when his mother married a Canadian citizen and relocated to
    > Calgary. Once he received Canadian citizenship, Australia would no longer
    > recognize his Aussie citizenship, but he easily got it back in 1998. He
    > originally thought he wanted to stay there, but found that Calgary was
home
    > so he returned. I found it surprising that Chris was only back in
Australia
    > for four months, yet he managed to regain his citizenship that quickly -
and
    > without renouncing his Canadian citizenship in the process. (Of course,
    > he's lost Australian citizenship again since returning permanently to
    > Canada, but he's not concerned about that).
    > Renee
    > --
    > Inland Spouse Timeline so far (U.S. Citizen):
    > 19 Feb 2003: Moved to Calgary from U.S. on 6 month TRV
    > 12 May 2003: Did medicals in Calgary
    > 20 June 2003: Applied for TRV extension
    > 5 July 2003: Wedding Date
    > 17 July 2003: CIC received inland spouse PR application
    > 15 Aug 2003: Received 6 month TRV extension
    > 20 Aug 2003: CIC request for work history dates (which were sent with
    > application)
    > 21 Aug 2003: CIC received work history reply by overnight post
    > 4 Sept 2003: CIC e-Client finally shows "in process"
    > "WebCrawler" <> wrote in message
    > news:RZEDb.5660$...
    > > There is no problem from the Canadian side, but the Indian side is still
    > > undecided.
    > > The PM has theoretically approved of the bill and put the weight of the
    > PMO
    > > behind it.
    > > However, I don't think it has been passed by the parliament yet.
    > >
    > > Once that happens, the President will need to sign it into law.
    > > Then the administrative and judiciary will come into play to enact
    > > regulations and guidelines for implementing the law.
    > > I would say it is still quite a way away.
    > >
    > > For now, to answer your question, yes the person will cease to be an
    > Indian
    > > citizen.
    > >
    > > "The Good Guy" <> wrote in message
    > > news:rmCDb.1876$...
    > > > Greetings,
    > > >
    > > > I wanted to know if a landed immigrant from India applies for
    > citizenship
    > > > and becomes a citizen of Canada, then does he have to surrender his
    > Indian
    > > > passport?
    > > >
    > > > I read somewhere on Internet that India now has dual citizenship pact
    > with
    > > > few countries and Canada is one of them.
    > > >
    > > > Any response to my query will be highly appreciated.
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

Jaj

    >On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:03:35 GMT, "Renee" <reneeno.spam.@shaw.spamguard.ca> wrote:
    >Is it then difficult to reclaim Indian citizenship if you decide to go back
    >permanently?

Never assume things - different countries have different rules for
citizenship resumption. For example, it's much harder for Canadians
who lost their citizenship prior to 1977 to get it back than it is for
former Australians.


    >Just curious - my husband is originally from Australia. He moved to Canada
    >in his teens when his mother married a Canadian citizen and relocated to
    >Calgary. Once he received Canadian citizenship, Australia would no longer
    >recognize his Aussie citizenship, but he easily got it back in 1998. He
    >originally thought he wanted to stay there, but found that Calgary was home
    >so he returned. I found it surprising that Chris was only back in Australia
    >for four months, yet he managed to regain his citizenship that quickly - and
    >without renouncing his Canadian citizenship in the process. (Of course,
    >he's lost Australian citizenship again since returning permanently to
    >Canada, but he's not concerned about that).

How did he lose his Australian citizenship a second time?
Did he acquire another citizenship (not Canadian, as he already had
that)?


Jeremy
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Renee

Australia doesn't recognize dual citizenship, so when he left Australia
again and reestablished that his permanent residence and preference was in
Canada, he was considered to have abandoned his Australian citizenship.

I don't understand all the technicalities, since I'm coming from a county
that does recognize dual citizenship, but he's sure he doesn't have the
Australian citizenship.

Renee

Jaj

    >On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:34:54 GMT, "Renee" <reneeno.spam.@shaw.spamguard.ca> wrote:
    >Australia doesn't recognize dual citizenship, so when he left Australia
    >again and reestablished that his permanent residence and preference was in
    >Canada, he was considered to have abandoned his Australian citizenship.

There is no law that removes citizenship from Australians who simply
move outside the country.

On the basis of what you say below, if his Australian citizenship was
restored in 1998 (and he would have a certificate if so) then he still
has it. His moving back to Canada a few months later would be
irrelevant.

Since 4.4.02 Australians have been allowed to freely naturalise in
another country and keep Australian citizenship. But even prior to
that date, dual citizenship was quite legal for many Australians,
including:
- those who acquired a second citizenship by birth or descent
- migrants who became Australian citizens
- Australians who lost, but subsequently resumed, Australian
citizenship.

http://www.citizenship.gov.au has all the information you need.

Have you got children? If they were born after your husband resumed
his Australian citizenship, they can be registered as Australian
citizens by descent. There is a time limit to do this:
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/118.pdf

If they were born before he resumed citizenship, they may be able to
take advantage of a recent policy change in Australia:
http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/cam/...a03/h03139.htm

Ask questions on misc.immigration.australia+nz

Jeremy


    >> >Just curious - my husband is originally from Australia. He moved to
    >Canada
    >> >in his teens when his mother married a Canadian citizen and relocated to
    >> >Calgary. Once he received Canadian citizenship, Australia would no
    >longer
    >> >recognize his Aussie citizenship, but he easily got it back in 1998. He
    >> >originally thought he wanted to stay there, but found that Calgary was
    >home
    >> >so he returned. I found it surprising that Chris was only back in
    >Australia
    >> >for four months, yet he managed to regain his citizenship that quickly -
    >and
    >> >without renouncing his Canadian citizenship in the process. (Of course,
    >> >he's lost Australian citizenship again since returning permanently to
    >> >Canada, but he's not concerned about that).
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

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in a recent article, Renee (reneeno.spam.@shaw.spamguard.ca) said:

    > Australia doesn't recognize dual citizenship, so when he left Australia
    > again and reestablished that his permanent residence and preference was in
    > Canada, he was considered to have abandoned his Australian citizenship.

Australia does recognise dual citizenship and has for many years.
However, I think you're confused with the Australian law that resulted in an
automatic loss of Australian citizenship if an Australian did something to
intentionally obtain the citizenship of another country. For example, I
move to Canada and apply for Canadian citizenship, my Australian citizenship
would be revoked. On the other hand, if I marry a citizen of a country that
gives spouses citizenship automatically, I would not lose my Australian
citizenship.

However, as of 2002, the Australian government removed those
restrictions resulting in Australians being able to apply for citizenship of
another country whilst still maintaining their Australian citizenship.

Renee

Thanks for both replies to my last post. I hope he's not doing anything
wrong by thinking that he no longer has Australian status since 1998. The
first issue that comes to mind for me is tax returns, since I come from the
land of the IRS.

I'll have to check into this one more. He has no intention of ever moving
back to Australia, but he certainly wouldn't want to be misinformed about
his status (and of course, his responsibilities that arise from that
status).

(See, newsgroups are great! There's always someone else who knows more than
you do to help you out. I know nothing about Australian
citizenship/immigration issues).

Renee