05-15-2004, 08:06 AM

rketi wrote:
    > I heard that I need Swiss visa to travel by direct night train from Paris to
    > Rome, as it passes through Switzerland.
    > Is it true?
false.
the train does not go trough Switzerland.

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05-15-2004, 09:07 AM

On Fri, 14 May 2004 19:34:34 GMT Piero <>
said...

> Normally trains to Roma are routed on the first way:
> Lyon/Frejus/Torino/Genova/Pisa/Roma.

A couple of small corrections. In France the trains don't go through
Lyon, I believe from Maçon via Culoz to Chambéry. Beyond Torino the
trains are routed via Alessandria, Piacenza, Bologna, Firenze to Roma.
The Artesia night trains no longer take the costal route from Genova to
Roma.

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05-15-2004, 10:41 AM

Giacomo wrote:
    >
    >
    > rketi wrote:
    >
    >> I heard that I need Swiss visa to travel by direct night train from
    >> Paris to
    >> Rome, as it passes through Switzerland.
    >> Is it true?
    >
    > false.
    > the train does not go trough Switzerland.

Honestly, it does. See other messages in this thread.

Krist

05-15-2004, 10:49 AM

Lennart Petersen wrote:
    > "rketi" <> skrev i meddelandet
    > news:Mrapc.283$wn1.139@fed1read01...
    >
    >>So how can I travel from Paris to Rome in train? Is there another train by
    >>which I can travel without crossing Swizerland?
    >>RK
    >
    > The day trains Paris-Milan (they're 3) and one night train Paris-Milan seem
    > to be all routed over Modane not involving Switzerland. No such direct train
    > to Rome so you need to change train at Milan
    > For schedules have a look at http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en

In short:
EN 225 and EN 227 Paris - Roma go via Switzerland.
EN 223 Paris - Venezia goes via Switzerland
EN 217 Paris - Milano does not go through Switzerland.

What would be the reason behind this? Limited capacity on the Modane
route because of engineering works at night?

(m.t.r.europe added)

Krist

05-15-2004, 04:06 PM

I took the train and it does cross the border France italy at Modane.

/
    > Giacomo wrote:
    >
    >> rketi wrote:
    >>> I heard that I need Swiss visa to travel by direct night train from
    >>> Paris to
    >>> Rome, as it passes through Switzerland.
    >>> Is it true?
    >> false.
    >> the train does not go trough Switzerland.
    >
    >
    > Honestly, it does. See other messages in this thread.
    >
    > Krist
    >

05-15-2004, 04:39 PM

"rketi" <> wrote in message news:<COYoc.15761$A27.11489@fed1read06>...
    > I heard that I need Swiss visa to travel by direct night train from Paris to
    > Rome, as it passes through Switzerland.
    > Is it true?

I did this trip last year and hadn't realized that the train travelled
through Switzerland. I'll have to look back on it and see which of
the routes it might have taken (I've read the messages down below)...

Joy

05-15-2004, 07:23 PM

"Giacomo" <> skrev i meddelandet
news:...
> I took the train and it does cross the border France italy at Modane.
which one, we are talking about several..
There's a clear footnote in Th.Cook European timetable for EN225,227,223:
"Border stations are Vallorbe and Domodossola (via Switzerland,nonEU
nationals may require transit visas) Ticket point for Domodossola is Iselle.
" end citat.

05-15-2004, 09:45 PM

"Lennart Petersen" <> a écrit dans le message de
news: Oetpc.92586$...
    > There's a clear footnote in Th.Cook European timetable for EN225,227,223:
    > "Border stations are Vallorbe and Domodossola (via Switzerland,nonEU
    > nationals may require transit visas) Ticket point for Domodossola is
Iselle.
    > " end citat.

Does this mean there's someone at the departure checking the visas, or that
swiss officers may wake you at night and ask for papers ???

JPh

05-16-2004, 12:30 AM

"jph" <jean-philippe?> skrev i meddelandet
news:c85vfi$mfr$...
    > "Lennart Petersen" <> a écrit dans le message
de
    > news: Oetpc.92586$...
    > >
    > > There's a clear footnote in Th.Cook European timetable for
EN225,227,223:
    > > "Border stations are Vallorbe and Domodossola (via Switzerland,nonEU
    > > nationals may require transit visas) Ticket point for Domodossola is
    > Iselle.
    > > " end citat.
    > Does this mean there's someone at the departure checking the visas, or
that
    > swiss officers may wake you at night and ask for papers ???
    > JPh
Normally neither as there's no advertised stop. But at least
theoretically,if anything odd happens, you must have valid documents for
Switzerland.

05-16-2004, 09:15 AM

/<rist <> a écrit dans le message :
...

    > In short:
    > EN 225 and EN 227 Paris - Roma go via Switzerland.
    > EN 223 Paris - Venezia goes via Switzerland
    > EN 217 Paris - Milano does not go through Switzerland.
    > What would be the reason behind this? Limited capacity on the Modane
    > route because of engineering works at night?

Yes, the Mont-cenis route via Modane is being re-gauged to accommodate
standard lorries on the RoLa services running from Aiton to Orbassano and
vv.

Best regards

Phil