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Old 11-26-2006, 06:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
Costos@Gmail.Com
 
Posts: 33
Default Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

Hi, guys,

Congratulations to me I guess as today is the first day I'm eligible
for naturalization based on my 3 years of marriage.

I'm trying to figure paperwork requirements out on my own, but all I
get is conflicting information. Some people say it's another ton of
paperwork to file N-400 based on 3 years of marriage, but the official
instructions on USCIS website only stipulate for sending in the
documentation for criminal stuff, if any.

So if I don't have anything criminal, all I send is N-400, checks, and
that's it? Or is it another extra headache with preparing all those
documents we had to submit for I-751? What is 'required' to be brought
to the interview later on - I suppose the instructions for that come in
the interview appointment letter....?

Thanks for all your help and advice!!!

Costos.
 

Old 11-26-2006, 08:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
-Folinskyinla
 
Posts: 994
Default Re: Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

> Hi, guys,
>
> Congratulations to me I guess as today is the first day I'm eligible
> for naturalization based on my 3 years of marriage.
>
> I'm trying to figure paperwork requirements out on my own, but all I
> get is conflicting information. Some people say it's another ton of
> paperwork to file N-400 based on 3 years of marriage, but the official
> instructions on USCIS website only stipulate for sending in the
> documentation for criminal stuff, if any.
>
> So if I don't have anything criminal, all I send is N-400, checks, and
> that's it? Or is it another extra headache with preparing all those
> documents we had to submit for I-751? What is 'required' to be
> brought
> to the interview later on - I suppose the instructions for that come
> in
> the interview appointment letter....?
>
> Thanks for all your help and advice!!!
>
> Costos.

Hi:

You are supposed to send a copy of your I-551 card.

At the time of interview, you will need certified copies of all criminal
matters -- whether they involve moral turpitude of not.

On the three year issue, some evidence will have to be presented at the
time of the interview, but usually not all that much.
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
Ian-Mstm
 
Posts: 6030
Default Re: Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

> Hi, guys,
>
> Congratulations to me I guess as today is the first day I'm eligible
> for naturalization based on my 3 years of marriage.
>
> I'm trying to figure paperwork requirements out on my own, but all I
> get is conflicting information. Some people say it's another ton of
> paperwork to file N-400 based on 3 years of marriage, but the official
> instructions on USCIS website only stipulate for sending in the
> documentation for criminal stuff, if any.
>
> So if I don't have anything criminal, all I send is N-400, checks, and
> that's it? Or is it another extra headache with preparing all those
> documents we had to submit for I-751? What is 'required' to be
> brought
> to the interview later on - I suppose the instructions for that come
> in
> the interview appointment letter....?
>
> Thanks for all your help and advice!!!
>
> Costos.

Just to clarify, it's not the years of marriage that's important. What's
important is that you have been a permanent resident for 3 years while
also married to a USC for 3 years.

All the paperwork requirements are clearly indicated in the "Guide to
Naturalization".

Ian
 
Old 11-26-2006, 08:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
Shahrokh22
 
Posts: 47
Default Re: Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

> Hi, guys,
>
> Congratulations to me I guess as today is the first day I'm eligible
> for naturalization based on my 3 years of marriage.
>
> I'm trying to figure paperwork requirements out on my own, but all I
> get is conflicting information. Some people say it's another ton of
> paperwork to file N-400 based on 3 years of marriage, but the official
> instructions on USCIS website only stipulate for sending in the
> documentation for criminal stuff, if any.
>
> So if I don't have anything criminal, all I send is N-400, checks, and
> that's it? Or is it another extra headache with preparing all those
> documents we had to submit for I-751? What is 'required' to be
> brought
> to the interview later on - I suppose the instructions for that come
> in
> the interview appointment letter....?
>
> Thanks for all your help and advice!!!
>
> Costos.

Hello Everybody,
I have another question for you.
My wife and I sent all the paperwork that we could thought of, when my
wife filled out her N-400. She included everything (marriage
certificate, tax forms, copy of her green card, copy of apartment lease,
..). When we received her interview letter, it repeated the same thing
again which means to bring the same documents that we attached to N-400
again. The letter seems to be a general letter for all applicants. The
letter does not seem to be prepared specifically for my wife. Other than
her passport and green card (the leeter askes for original), do you
think we should take with us the same documents that we already sent
them with the form, again?

As far as your question is concerned, you are right. You do not need to
send everything when you fill out the form. But you still need to send a
few documents with your form. They will ask you to bring the rest when
you receive your interview letter.
Your best bet is to ask your local immigration office (that is what I
will do eventually) just to make sure.
__________________
s. Hafizi
 
Old 11-26-2006, 10:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
Ian-Mstm
 
Posts: 6030
Default Re: Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

> Hello Everybody,
> I have another question for you.
> My wife and I sent all the paperwork that we could thought of, when
> my wife filled out her N-400. She included everything (marriage
> certificate, tax forms, copy of her green card, copy of apartment
> lease, ...). When we received her interview letter, it repeated the
> same thing again which means to bring the same documents that we
> attached to N-400 again. The letter seems to be a general letter for
> all applicants. The letter does not seem to be prepared specifically
> for my wife. Other than her passport and green card (the leeter askes
> for original), do you think we should take with us the same documents
> that we already sent them with the form, again?
>
> As far as your question is concerned, you are right. You do not need
> to send everything when you fill out the form. But you still need to
> send a few documents with your form. They will ask you to bring the
> rest when you receive your interview letter.
> Your best bet is to ask your local immigration office (that is what I
> will do eventually) just to make sure.

How many times, exactly, are you going to post the same question? I've
seen it no fewer than 4 times in the last two days! People have already
responded to you... are you not capable of reading and understanding
those responses?

Here... let me make it simple for you. The letter says to bring the same
stuff you already sent. This is not rocket science - for crying out
loud... BRING THE SAME STUFF YOU ALREADY SENT!

Ian
 
Old 11-27-2006, 02:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
Shahrokh22
 
Posts: 47
Default Re: Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

> How many times, exactly, are you going to post the same question? I've
> seen it no fewer than 4 times in the last two days! People have
> already responded to you... are you not capable of reading and
> understanding those responses?
>
> Here... let me make it simple for you. The letter says to bring the
> same stuff you already sent. This is not rocket science - for crying
> out loud... BRING THE SAME STUFF YOU ALREADY SENT!
>
> Ian

DO NOT READ IT AND DO NOT REPLY TO IT. YOU ARE NOT BEING CHARGED FOR
READING IT. YOU CHOOSE TO READ. I THINK THAT SAID IT ALL. ARE YOU TRYING
TO BE A SMART A..?
__________________
s. Hafizi
 
Old 11-27-2006, 08:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
Costos@Gmail.Com
 
Posts: 33
Default Re: Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

Thanks, everyone! You're very helpful as always.

Believe it or not, neither my wife nor I are willing to put in more
effort than we have to into our immigration stuff (just like everyone,
I assume). Like we don't want to even bother to prepare that stack of
documents we sent for my I-751 not so long ago. I'm sure you, guys who
went through this or practice law, know what I mean. You want to
provide as much as possible. But in the case with N-400 I still have
an option of waiting two more years and avoiding all the hassle. So
the questions that still remains (and I know the subjective matter of
the whole business here) -

What are the minimum requirements for paperwork for N-400 filing based
on 3 years of marriage. It doesn't state anything about
mortgage/lease/etc. documents that we need to send in with the
application....does that mean that don't even want to see that at the
interview? Don't they want to see that somehow because otherwise what
would be the point to even differentiate between 3 and 5 year options
if they weren't asking for proof of it?

Oh, god, I just want this whole USCIS odyssey be eventually over and
done with. I guess that's the main motivation behind trying to find
out if paperworkwise it'd be reasonable enough to apply now or in two
years. Residence wise and marriage wise we (well, I - since I'm the
one looking into getting naturalized) qualify 100%.

Geez, am I the only one posting three huge paragraphs here? Sorry.

I REALLY appreciate all the advice/opinions.

Costos.

ian-mstm wrote:
> > Hi, guys,
> >
> > Congratulations to me I guess as today is the first day I'm eligible
> > for naturalization based on my 3 years of marriage.
> >
> > I'm trying to figure paperwork requirements out on my own, but all I
> > get is conflicting information. Some people say it's another ton of
> > paperwork to file N-400 based on 3 years of marriage, but the official
> > instructions on USCIS website only stipulate for sending in the
> > documentation for criminal stuff, if any.
> >
> > So if I don't have anything criminal, all I send is N-400, checks, and
> > that's it? Or is it another extra headache with preparing all those
> > documents we had to submit for I-751? What is 'required' to be
> > brought
> > to the interview later on - I suppose the instructions for that come
> > in
> > the interview appointment letter....?
> >
> > Thanks for all your help and advice!!!
> >
> > Costos.
>
> Just to clarify, it's not the years of marriage that's important. What's
> important is that you have been a permanent resident for 3 years while
> also married to a USC for 3 years.
>
> All the paperwork requirements are clearly indicated in the "Guide to
> Naturalization".
>
> Ian
>
> --
 
Old 11-27-2006, 05:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
Shahrokh22
 
Posts: 47
Default Re: Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

> Thanks, everyone! You're very helpful as always.
>
> Believe it or not, neither my wife nor I are willing to put in more
> effort than we have to into our immigration stuff (just like everyone,
> I assume). Like we don't want to even bother to prepare that stack of
> documents we sent for my I-751 not so long ago. I'm sure you, guys who
> went through this or practice law, know what I mean. You want to
> provide as much as possible. But in the case with N-400 I still have
> an option of waiting two more years and avoiding all the hassle. So
> the questions that still remains (and I know the subjective matter of
> the whole business here) -
>
> What are the minimum requirements for paperwork for N-400 filing based
> on 3 years of marriage. It doesn't state anything about
> mortgage/lease/etc. documents that we need to send in with the
> application....does that mean that don't even want to see that at the
> interview? Don't they want to see that somehow because otherwise what
> would be the point to even differentiate between 3 and 5 year options
> if they weren't asking for proof of it?
>
> Oh, god, I just want this whole USCIS odyssey be eventually over and
> done with. I guess that's the main motivation behind trying to find
> out if paperworkwise it'd be reasonable enough to apply now or in two
> years. Residence wise and marriage wise we (well, I - since I'm the
> one looking into getting naturalized) qualify 100%.
>
> Geez, am I the only one posting three huge paragraphs here? Sorry.
>
> I REALLY appreciate all the advice/opinions.
>
> Costos.
>
> ian-mstm wrote:
> > > Hi, guys,
> > >
> > > Congratulations to me I guess as today is the first day I'm
> > > eligible
> > > for naturalization based on my 3 years of marriage.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to figure paperwork requirements out on my own, but all
> > > I
> > > get is conflicting information. Some people say it's another ton
> > > of
> > > paperwork to file N-400 based on 3 years of marriage, but the
> > > official
> > > instructions on USCIS website only stipulate for sending in the
> > > documentation for criminal stuff, if any.
> > >
> > > So if I don't have anything criminal, all I send is N-400, checks,
> > > and
> > > that's it? Or is it another extra headache with preparing all
> > > those
> > > documents we had to submit for I-751? What is 'required' to be
> > > brought
> > > to the interview later on - I suppose the instructions for that
> > > come
> > > in
> > > the interview appointment letter....?
> > >
> > > Thanks for all your help and advice!!!
> > >
> > > Costos.
> > Just to clarify, it's not the years of marriage that's important.
> > What's
> > important is that you have been a permanent resident for 3 years
> > while
> > also married to a USC for 3 years.
> > All the paperwork requirements are clearly indicated in the "Guide
> > to
> > Naturalization".
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > --
>

Hi There,
I had the same problem as you do now regarding the related documents
that we need to attach to our N-400. It used to be a requirement to send
everything (Apartment lease/ proof of marriage, police records,proof of
the termination of previous marriages ...) with N-400. I went to our
local INS office and they gave me a sheet which indicated the neccessary
documents that need to be attached to our application. Those documents
were proof of name change, application fee, marriage certificate, 2
photos and a copy of both sides of the green card.
Before I went to the INS, I called the central office (there is a 1-800-
.. number for it). They told me to use the old guideline and send
everything, So I went to our local INS office to make sure of what I
need to send exactly. When the immigration officer handed me the new
guideline sheet, she told me that I can still attach other documents. So
I sent them evrything that I could think of. We just received the
interview letter which is scheduled for Feb 14th. There was another
letter attached to the interview letter which is asking us to bring to
the interview the same documents that we already attached to the N-400
(everything will be redundant).
I opened a new threat regarding this matter for the people who have
already completed thier interview. They are the only ones who can answer
our questions. I do not mind to take the same set of documents with me
to the interview again, the only problem I have is with one of the
documents which is difficult to duplicate again since it is a translated
and approved document.
I am going to our local INS where the interview will be conducted and I
will ask them whether it is neccessary to bring that one piece with us
or the one we already gave them will satisfy their requirement.
I'll keep you inform.
__________________
s. Hafizi
 
Old 11-27-2006, 06:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
Noorah101
 
Posts: 12637
Default Re: Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

> Hi There,
> I had the same problem as you do now regarding the related documents
> that we need to attach to our N-400. It used to be a requirement to
> send everything (Apartment lease/ proof of marriage, police
> records,proof of the termination of previous marriages ...) with N-
> 400. I went to our local INS office and they gave me a sheet which
> indicated the neccessary documents that need to be attached to our
> application. Those documents were proof of name change, application
> fee, marriage certificate, 2 photos and a copy of both sides of the
> green card.
> Before I went to the INS, I called the central office (there is a 1-800-
> ... number for it). They told me to use the old guideline and send
> everything, So I went to our local INS office to make sure of what I
> need to send exactly. When the immigration officer handed me the new
> guideline sheet, she told me that I can still attach other documents.
> So I sent them evrything that I could think of. We just received the
> interview letter which is scheduled for Feb 14th. There was another
> letter attached to the interview letter which is asking us to bring to
> the interview the same documents that we already attached to the N-400
> (everything will be redundant).
> I opened a new threat regarding this matter for the people who have
> already completed thier interview. They are the only ones who can
> answer our questions. I do not mind to take the same set of documents
> with me to the interview again, the only problem I have is with one
> of the documents which is difficult to duplicate again since it is a
> translated and approved document.
> I am going to our local INS where the interview will be conducted and
> I will ask them whether it is neccessary to bring that one piece with
> us or the one we already gave them will satisfy their requirement.
> I'll keep you inform.

Hi Shahrokh,

When you sent in the backup info with the N-400, you should have sent
photocopies of everything. Then you would bring the originals to the
interview. If you mistakenly sent originals with the N-400, bring
photocopies to the interview. It's not as difficult as you're making it
out to be, really.

Best Wishes,
Rene
 
Old 11-27-2006, 07:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
Rete
 
Posts: 9736
Default Re: Confused with N-400 paperwork requirements

> Thanks, everyone! You're very helpful as always.
>
> Believe it or not, neither my wife nor I are willing to put in more
> effort than we have to into our immigration stuff (just like everyone,
> I assume). Like we don't want to even bother to prepare that stack of
> documents we sent for my I-751 not so long ago. I'm sure you, guys who
> went through this or practice law, know what I mean. You want to
> provide as much as possible. But in the case with N-400 I still have
> an option of waiting two more years and avoiding all the hassle. So
> the questions that still remains (and I know the subjective matter of
> the whole business here) -
>
> What are the minimum requirements for paperwork for N-400 filing based
> on 3 years of marriage. It doesn't state anything about
> mortgage/lease/etc. documents that we need to send in with the
> application....does that mean that don't even want to see that at the
> interview? Don't they want to see that somehow because otherwise what
> would be the point to even differentiate between 3 and 5 year options
> if they weren't asking for proof of it?
>
> Oh, god, I just want this whole USCIS odyssey be eventually over and
> done with. I guess that's the main motivation behind trying to find
> out if paperworkwise it'd be reasonable enough to apply now or in two
> years. Residence wise and marriage wise we (well, I - since I'm the
> one looking into getting naturalized) qualify 100%.
>
> Geez, am I the only one posting three huge paragraphs here? Sorry.
>
> I REALLY appreciate all the advice/opinions.
>
> Costos.
>
> ian-mstm wrote:
> > > Hi, guys,
> > >
> > > Congratulations to me I guess as today is the first day I'm
> > > eligible
> > > for naturalization based on my 3 years of marriage.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to figure paperwork requirements out on my own, but all
> > > I
> > > get is conflicting information. Some people say it's another ton
> > > of
> > > paperwork to file N-400 based on 3 years of marriage, but the
> > > official
> > > instructions on USCIS website only stipulate for sending in the
> > > documentation for criminal stuff, if any.
> > >
> > > So if I don't have anything criminal, all I send is N-400, checks,
> > > and
> > > that's it? Or is it another extra headache with preparing all
> > > those
> > > documents we had to submit for I-751? What is 'required' to be
> > > brought
> > > to the interview later on - I suppose the instructions for that
> > > come
> > > in
> > > the interview appointment letter....?
> > >
> > > Thanks for all your help and advice!!!
> > >
> > > Costos.
> > Just to clarify, it's not the years of marriage that's important.
> > What's
> > important is that you have been a permanent resident for 3 years
> > while
> > also married to a USC for 3 years.
> > All the paperwork requirements are clearly indicated in the "Guide
> > to
> > Naturalization".
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > --
>

I'm sure that 99.98% of us guys who went through it did not feel the way
you and your wife feel and felt about this immigration stuff. Most of
us were more than willing to put as much time, effort and responsibility
as possible into making an accurate and complete filing of any and all
petitions. After all it involves your life's choices.
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