No one

Good day all,
I was born in Australia by British parents. Then we moved, and moved
some more, but eventually I rooted in USA. I gained citizenship in USA
before I was 18 having had my parents get it and therefore I earn it.

Any one have any ideas on how that will effect me coming to Oz and trying to
regain entry as a citizen/resident or just plain visa.


thanks much
Craig

A Mate

I would suspect you're an Australian citizen still. Was your birth
registered in Australia - hard to imagine it wasn't!!

Apply to the Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages in the capital city
of the state in which you were born for a birth certificate - then apply for
a passport!!!



"No one" <craig h at reflexguild . com> wrote in message
news:...
    > Good day all,
    > I was born in Australia by British parents. Then we moved, and moved
    > some more, but eventually I rooted in USA. I gained citizenship in USA
    > before I was 18 having had my parents get it and therefore I earn it.
    > Any one have any ideas on how that will effect me coming to Oz and trying
to
    > regain entry as a citizen/resident or just plain visa.
    > thanks much
    > Craig

Jaj

Craig
Anyone born in Australia before 20 August 1986 (other than in some
cases children of diplomats) acquired Australian citizenship at birth.

Before 4th April 2002, adult Australians who naturalised in other
countries, such as the US, generally lost Australian citizenship.

If you were under 18 when you acquired US citizenship then you would
be ok *unless* your parents lost Australian citizenship at the same
time. If they never acquired Australian citizenship (and hence could
not have lost it) you should still be Australian.

So the question is: did your parents ever become naturalised
Australian citizens? If no, you are almost certainly Australian, if
yes, then you may not be.

It would also be useful if you could say when your parents (and you)
became US citizens.

Resumption of citizenship may or may be possible if you have lost it.
See form 132:
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/132.pdf

See http://www.citizenship.gov.au for general information on
Australian citizenship.

If you are an Australian citizen, just apply to the Australian Embassy
in Washington DC for an Australian passport - http://www.austemb.org
(or your nearest Australian mission if not in the US).

It's ok to hold Australian as well as US citizenship:
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/

Britain is also ok with dual/multiple citizenship.


Jeremy


"No one" <craig h at reflexguild . com> wrote in message news:<>...
    > Good day all,
    > I was born in Australia by British parents. Then we moved, and moved
    > some more, but eventually I rooted in USA. I gained citizenship in USA
    > before I was 18 having had my parents get it and therefore I earn it.
    >
    > Any one have any ideas on how that will effect me coming to Oz and trying to
    > regain entry as a citizen/resident or just plain visa.
    >
    >
    > thanks much
    > Craig

Craig H

Thanks all
I still have my valid birth certificate and I looked at the naturalization
certificate last night and I remembered incorrectly. I was actually
naturalized a few months after my 18th birthday, I just remember starting it
beforehand.

My parents were both Brits and I know they did not get Oz citizenship
It was Oct 1989 when I was naturalized,
1971 when born

I will follow up Austemb during business hours.
Hopefully, worse case looks like I may need to "resume my lost citizenship"

-Craig

"JAJ" <> wrote in message
news:...
    > Craig
    > Anyone born in Australia before 20 August 1986 (other than in some
    > cases children of diplomats) acquired Australian citizenship at birth.
    > Before 4th April 2002, adult Australians who naturalised in other
    > countries, such as the US, generally lost Australian citizenship.
    > If you were under 18 when you acquired US citizenship then you would
    > be ok *unless* your parents lost Australian citizenship at the same
    > time. If they never acquired Australian citizenship (and hence could
    > not have lost it) you should still be Australian.
    > So the question is: did your parents ever become naturalised
    > Australian citizens? If no, you are almost certainly Australian, if
    > yes, then you may not be.
    > It would also be useful if you could say when your parents (and you)
    > became US citizens.
    > Resumption of citizenship may or may be possible if you have lost it.
    > See form 132:
    > http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/132.pdf
    > See http://www.citizenship.gov.au for general information on
    > Australian citizenship.
    > If you are an Australian citizen, just apply to the Australian Embassy
    > in Washington DC for an Australian passport - http://www.austemb.org
    > (or your nearest Australian mission if not in the US).
    > It's ok to hold Australian as well as US citizenship:
    > http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
    > Britain is also ok with dual/multiple citizenship.
    > Jeremy
    > "No one" <craig h at reflexguild . com> wrote in message
news:<>...
    > > Good day all,
    > > I was born in Australia by British parents. Then we moved, and moved
    > > some more, but eventually I rooted in USA. I gained citizenship in USA
    > > before I was 18 having had my parents get it and therefore I earn it.
    > >
    > > Any one have any ideas on how that will effect me coming to Oz and
trying to
    > > regain entry as a citizen/resident or just plain visa.
    > >
    > >
    > > thanks much
    > > Craig
"JAJ" <> wrote in message
news:...
    > Craig
    > Anyone born in Australia before 20 August 1986 (other than in some
    > cases children of diplomats) acquired Australian citizenship at birth.
    > Before 4th April 2002, adult Australians who naturalised in other
    > countries, such as the US, generally lost Australian citizenship.
    > If you were under 18 when you acquired US citizenship then you would
    > be ok *unless* your parents lost Australian citizenship at the same
    > time. If they never acquired Australian citizenship (and hence could
    > not have lost it) you should still be Australian.
    > So the question is: did your parents ever become naturalised
    > Australian citizens? If no, you are almost certainly Australian, if
    > yes, then you may not be.
    > It would also be useful if you could say when your parents (and you)
    > became US citizens.
    > Resumption of citizenship may or may be possible if you have lost it.
    > See form 132:
    > http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/132.pdf
    > See http://www.citizenship.gov.au for general information on
    > Australian citizenship.
    > If you are an Australian citizen, just apply to the Australian Embassy
    > in Washington DC for an Australian passport - http://www.austemb.org
    > (or your nearest Australian mission if not in the US).
    > It's ok to hold Australian as well as US citizenship:
    > http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
    > Britain is also ok with dual/multiple citizenship.
    > Jeremy
    > "No one" <craig h at reflexguild . com> wrote in message
news:<>...
    > > Good day all,
    > > I was born in Australia by British parents. Then we moved, and moved
    > > some more, but eventually I rooted in USA. I gained citizenship in USA
    > > before I was 18 having had my parents get it and therefore I earn it.
    > >
    > > Any one have any ideas on how that will effect me coming to Oz and
trying to
    > > regain entry as a citizen/resident or just plain visa.
    > >
    > >
    > > thanks much
    > > Craig

Jaj

It's something of a grey area if you made the application before age
18, but did not become a citizen until after age 18. However in the
US you did take an oath after age 18, which they may view as
activating the old section 17 (as it existed before 4.4.02).

------

AUSTRALIAN CITIZENSHIP ACT 1948
- SECT 17
Loss of citizenship on acquisition of another
nationality

(1) A person, being an Australian citizen who has attained the age
of 18 years, who does any act or thing:

(a) the sole or dominant purpose of which; and
(b) the effect of which;

is to acquire the nationality or citizenship of a foreign country,
shall, upon that acquisition, cease to be an Australian citizen.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply in relation to an act of marriage.

-------

You can also look at form 1114i:
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/1114i.pdf

If you're going to deal with the Australian Embassy, I would do so in
writing rather than over the phone.

If looking at resumption, you need to note all the requirements,
including the fact you've lived in Australia for 2 years in total and
have maintained ties with Australia.

You may also want to contact the Southern Cross Group for assistance:
http://www.southern-cross-group.org

Jeremy


"Craig H" <craig h at reflexguild . com> wrote in message news:<>...
    > Thanks all
    > I still have my valid birth certificate and I looked at the naturalization
    > certificate last night and I remembered incorrectly. I was actually
    > naturalized a few months after my 18th birthday, I just remember starting it
    > beforehand.
    >
    > My parents were both Brits and I know they did not get Oz citizenship
    > It was Oct 1989 when I was naturalized,
    > 1971 when born
    >
    > I will follow up Austemb during business hours.
    > Hopefully, worse case looks like I may need to "resume my lost citizenship"
    >
    > -Craig

AlmostBob

As of 4th April 2002, the Australian Government has amended their citizenship
legislation to allow dual nationality. Previously, any Australian citizen who
acquired a second nationality would automatically have to revoke their
Australian citizenship. Although the amendment is not retrospective, there are
now provisions allowing those who may have lost their Australian citizenship
prior this date to apply to resume it.

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/forms.htm#loss