Brutus

Hi,

I've been reading for a while now and I'm trying to work out why
Australian companies don't offer sponsorship very easily??

Is it too much paper work or too much cost for them??

Or is it a attitude thing, that they don't want to hand them out??

Anyone know whats actually involved behind sponsorship by a company,
I'm aware that you have to have skills that are not easily available in
the country.

B

Beegee

    > Hi,
    > I've been reading for a while now and I'm trying to work out why
    > Australian companies don't offer sponsorship very easily??
    > Is it too much paper work or too much cost for them??
    > Or is it a attitude thing, that they don't want to hand them out??
    > Anyone know whats actually involved behind sponsorship by a company,
    > I'm aware that you have to have skills that are not easily available
    > in the country.
    > B

The job has to be one that has not or cannot be filled by an Aussie but
I think some of it maybe to do with some many people wanting to come
over on their own backs why bother sponsoring.

Brutus

    > The job has to be one that has not or cannot be filled by an Aussie
    > but I think some of it maybe to do with some many people wanting to
    > come over on their own backs why bother sponsoring.

I understand the first bit.
I'm not entirely sure what else you're saying.

Beegee

    > I understand the first bit.
    > I'm not entirely sure what else you're saying.

Whoops should looked at the screen at some point when typing :)

Brutus

    > Whoops should looked at the screen at some point when typing :)

Ahhh, now I understand :)

Jaj

    > Hi,
    > I've been reading for a while now and I'm trying to work out why
    > Australian companies don't offer sponsorship very easily??
    > Is it too much paper work or too much cost for them??
    > Or is it a attitude thing, that they don't want to hand them out??
    > Anyone know whats actually involved behind sponsorship by a company,
    > I'm aware that you have to have skills that are not easily available
    > in the country.
    > B

Why should any employer sponsor an outsider when he can hire the
Australian next in line?

Firstly there'll be no delay waiting for a visa to be processed, also no
paperwork or sponsorship hassles (at least with immigration), and also
there's likely more familiarity with an Australian's education and work
experience.

New immigrants face the third problem, although not the first two.

It would be no different if an Australian without UK citizenship or
residency started looking for a job in the UK.

Employers start becoming interested in sponsorship when they can't hire
Australians. For example, if the job requires specialised skills, is in
an area of real shortage, or located in a remote area.

Jeremy

Brutus

    > Why should any employer sponsor an outsider when he can hire the
    > Australian next in line?
    > Firstly there'll be no delay waiting for a visa to be processed, also
    > no paperwork or sponsorship hassles (at least with immigration), and
    > also there's likely more familiarity with an Australian's education
    > and work experience.
    > New immigrants face the third problem, although not the first two.
    > It would be no different if an Australian without UK citizenship or
    > residency started looking for a job in the UK.
    > Employers start becoming interested in sponsorship when they can't
    > hire Australians. For example, if the job requires specialised
    > skills, is in an area of real shortage, or located in a remote area.
    > Jeremy

I was to understand from mates who have been sponsored that its not much
of a hassle at all for a company to organise sponsorship.

I agree with your view when an Australian is next in line. I would do
exactly the same and look after my local people first.

Would you be more likely to find favour if you're out on a Working
Holiday Visa and have been working with a company for 6 months or so,
then ask them to sponsor you?? That way they've kinda tried you out for
a period....

Bondipom

    > I was to understand from mates who have been sponsored that its not
    > much of a hassle at all for a company to organise sponsorship.
    > I agree with your view when an Australian is next in line. I would do
    > exactly the same and look after my local people first.
    > Would you be more likely to find favour if you're out on a Working
    > Holiday Visa and have been working with a company for 6 months or so,
    > then ask them to sponsor you?? That way they've kinda tried you out
    > for a period....

If you do that you have broken the 3 months limit for working for an
employer and outta oz you go when DIMIA look at your employment record.
It is not much hassle but you have to make it worth the hassle. There
are little things like references, lack of knowledge of overseas
qualifications and companies, risk in the applicant not making it over,
difficulty in obtaining interviews etc etc.

There are many a WHVer that does get sponsorship but that is more a
matter of luck than a calculated migration plan. Anything is possible

Brutus

    > If you do that you have broken the 3 months limit for working for an
    > employer and outta oz you go when DIMIA look at your employment
    > record. It is not much hassle but you have to make it worth the
    > hassle. There are little things like references, lack of knowledge of
    > overseas qualifications and companies, risk in the applicant not
    > making it over, difficulty in obtaining interviews etc etc.
    > There are many a WHVer that does get sponsorship but that is more a
    > matter of luck than a calculated migration plan. Anything is possible

I'm confident I can oversome most of these hurdles, my qualifications
are Microsoft related, plus a BSC(Hons) degree, its British, so is
usually well recognised in the commonwealth.

In terms of references and experience, I work for a bank in the UK that
actually owns some banks in Australia, yes, I have looked at an internal
transfer, but they don't do that yet for some odd reason.

I could target these companies I suppose, and see if that would work.

I've also looked at Skilled Migration, but I have to wait another year
or so and I don't fancy doing that.

I personally think that given its size, background and economy
Australia could be a little more open to migrants than it currently is,
the work is available and unemployment is relatively low, no matter
what they tell ya.

Its not as if people like myself would leech the system and not
work hard.

I think it would keep Aussies on their toes if they relaxed the laws a
wee bit.... :)

Anyway.... I'll keep trying to figure it out

SprintST1

    > I'm confident I can oversome most of these hurdles, my qualifications
    > are Microsoft related, plus a BSC(Hons) degree, its British, so is
    > usually well recognised in the commonwealth.
    > In terms of references and experience, I work for a bank in the UK
    > that actually owns some banks in Australia, yes, I have looked at an
    > internal transfer, but they don't do that yet for some odd reason.
    > I could target these companies I suppose, and see if that would work.
    > I've also looked at Skilled Migration, but I have to wait another year
    > or so and I don't fancy doing that.
    > I personally think that given its size, background and economy
    > Australia could be a little more open to migrants than it currently
    > is, the work is available and unemployment is relatively low, no
    > matter what they tell ya.
    > Its not as if people like myself would leech the system and not
    > work hard.
    > I think it would keep Aussies on their toes if they relaxed the laws a
    > wee bit.... :)
    > Anyway.... I'll keep trying to figure it out

Brutus,
Going thru sponsorship now (457 (4yr) Business visa - it AIN'T simple.
Company incurs time/cost/hassle sponsoring you, & you must have very
specialised skills eg. are a guru in MS Exchange or Basel
II/SarbOx/money laundering regulations banking?

See process via Forms & Booklets at www.immi.gov.au

Company must (form 1196)
1. apply to be a registered sponsor (this includes making commitments
like agreeing to pay return travel for the nominee (you) and your
spouse/dependants). If approved or at same time
2. apply to nominate you. If approved or at same time
3. you must apply (form 1066) for the visa proving that you are
qualified,
for ideally for specialised work which could not be done by an Oz
citizen, (then when requested - obtain medicals (1163i)

Whole process takes 6+ weeks even via online applications from both
company & you at www.immi.gov.au/e_visa/business.htm
Manual applications take an ADDITIONAL month.

Try Jobserve.co.uk - If the advert says "applications are welcome from
outside Australia" then you might have a chance.

Good luck!
SprintST1