My interest

I am not a US citizen/GC holder. What's the best option if I want:

(1) if I am able to find a job in US, I can work and live here without
much restrictions, AND
(2) if I am later move to other place to work, I don't need to pay US
tax (and can still come back if I find another US job)

This seems to be not a problem in many other develoepd countries, but
in US it seems to be a problem:

As H1B has annual quote and 6-year limit, (1) may not be satisfied.
While a US citizen/GC holder, though (1) is OK, but (2) may not bee met
due to global tax.

Thanks.

Boiler

> I am not a US citizen/GC holder. What's the best option if I want:
>
> (1) if I am able to find a job in US, I can work and live here without
> much restrictions, AND
> (2) if I am later move to other place to work, I don't need to pay US
> tax (and can still come back if I find another US job)
>
> This seems to be not a problem in many other develoepd countries, but
> in US it seems to be a problem:
>
> As H1B has annual quote and 6-year limit, (1) may not be satisfied.
> While a US citizen/GC holder, though (1) is OK, but (2) may not bee
> met
> due to global tax.
>
> Thanks.

1. A USC has less restrictions than a Green Card Holder. So this
would depend whether you were looking for a job that was only open
to a USC's.

2. You can rescind your Citizenship or Permanent Residency status, but
you would then have to go through the process again to regain it if
you come back.

J. J. Farrell

My interest wrote:
> Where does my question come from -
>
> In almost all other (I cannot think of an exception myself) developed
> countries, there are no cap on most category of work permits and there
> are no global tax, so you can go there if you find a job. You pay tax
> while you are living there, but if you left, you don't pay tax any more
> (which I think it's fair enough). Also, what suprised me more is even
> if you married to a USC, you still cannot work unless you start GC
> process. (i.e. a USC's spouse is somewhat forced to apply a GC if
> he/she wants to work in US -- ant what happen if the couple left US -
> thus abadoned the GC process - and then come back to US after having
> lived in another country for a while?).
>
> The best solution I found so far for my own question is to get a
> Canadian citizenship as TN visa is much easier to get. Any comments?

If you don't like the conditions under which the USA government is
willing to let you go to the USA, don't go to the USA.

My interest

Come on guys, don't be so hostile. I am not saying I don't want to
follow the rules or whatsoever - I am a law binding person. I was just
trying to ask for advice on what's the best option an individual, again
who want to follow the rules, can have in a particular country. It's a
free and civilized world, any person has a right to seek the best
option for himself, either in or out of a particular country. If you
don't have advice to offer, it's fine (maybe it is the way the
law-maker intended to do here), but don't show such strong negative
attitude to a person who asks for advice!

Noorah101

> I am not a US citizen/GC holder. What's the best option if I want:
>
> (1) if I am able to find a job in US, I can work and live here without
> much restrictions, AND
> (2) if I am later move to other place to work, I don't need to pay US
> tax (and can still come back if I find another US job)
>
> This seems to be not a problem in many other develoepd countries, but
> in US it seems to be a problem:
>
> As H1B has annual quote and 6-year limit, (1) may not be satisfied.
> While a US citizen/GC holder, though (1) is OK, but (2) may not bee
> met
> due to global tax.
>
> Thanks.

What kind of restrictions are you talking about? You mean restrictions
as to the type of work you are allowed to do? Travel restrictions?
Length of time in USA restrictions? You need to be more specific in
your question.


What kind of other place? You mean another country? You only need to
pay US tax as long as you are working in the USA. If you move to Dubai
to work there for a while, you won't pay US taxes (unless you worked a
partial year here, in which case you will need to, then). If you work
in Dubai for the next 5 years and get another job in the USA after that,
then you'll come work in the USA again and pay US taxes.

Rene

Boiler

> Come on guys, don't be so hostile. I am not saying I don't want to
> follow the rules or whatsoever - I am a law binding person. I was
> just
> trying to ask for advice on what's the best option an individual,
> again
> who want to follow the rules, can have in a particular country. It's
> a
> free and civilized world, any person has a right to seek the best
> option for himself, either in or out of a particular country. If you
> don't have advice to offer, it's fine (maybe it is the way the
> law-maker intended to do here), but don't show such strong negative
> attitude to a person who asks for advice!

Are there some replys I am not seeing here?.

USC's, and PR's are taxable on their world wide income. So if you worked
in Dubai and did not pay any tax you would pay to Uncle Sam.

Noorah101

> Are there some replys I am not seeing here?.
>
> USC's, and PR's are taxable on their world wide income. So if you
> worked in Dubai and did not pay any tax you would pay to Uncle Sam.

No other replies that I could see, either! I don't know who he was
responding to. You weren't hostile at all.

But he's not a USC or a PR, and if he comes to the USA on an H1B, he
still won't necessary be one, right? So he only has to pay tax on his
US earned income, I guess.

Rene

Bob

> No other replies that I could see, either! I don't know who he was
> responding to. You weren't hostile at all.
>
> But he's not a USC or a PR, and if he comes to the USA on an H1B, he
> still won't necessary be one, right? So he only has to pay tax on his
> US earned income, I guess.
>
> Rene

depends...if you've been an H1B for x amount of years, then you still
have to pay to uncle Sam for a while...

My interest

Boiler - sorry, it's in response to yours. Yours is polite and
informative.

My interest

Some restrictions I was talking about are:

- If one is offered a US job, he may be still unable to work in US.
(H1B annual quota usually runs out within 2-3 months after Apri!). This
is actually very bad for both the US company who needs talent and the
people who want to work in US legally. (This actually happened to me.
I was offered a Wall Street job August 2005, but H1B quota ran out!
Fortunately, in my particular case, I was qualified for E-2 visas
otherwise I would be unable to take on this role.)

- Following the above case, essentially if I want to change a job, I
need at least 6months+ lead-time to prepare. i.e. secure a new offer
before April so the employer can file the petition in time and start
working in the coming October! ... H1B transfer makes it easier, but
there is a 6-year limit

These essentially make people whom is needed by US companies and who
wants to legally work & live in US uncessarily more difficult ( .. and
arguably these rules won't help stop illegal immigrants)

- Another example is related to my friend. She (non USC) married a USC
while in Europe. The couple recently moved to US. My friend was very
pissed off because she found she could not work unless she applied for
a GC. (The couple hasn't decided where to live permantly, thus she
really does not want to take the hassle of applying the GC. They also
worry about the consequence if she gets a GC and then give it up
because the couple move out of US. What will happen if they decide to
move back again in the future?)

I understand most poeple will go through the GC process so he/she can
change job freely and live here as long as he/she wishes. But not
everybody really want GC. For me, what I really want is if I can find a
good US job and there are not enough local qualified people, I can get
a working visa. By acquiring a GC, I will be liable to US tax if I
move to somewhere else in the future. (Well, I can give up GC, but
then I will be in the same, if not worse, situation next time I want to
come to US)

By other places, I meant other countries. I had been working in UK,
Switzerland, Japan etc. In all these countries, one can always get a
working visa if he/she is offered a decent job. (And as the spouse of
a citizen, one is automatically eligible for working there). All of
these countries have well regulated job markets (like US), but from an
individual perspective, it seems to me more friendly.

Therefore I am trying to ask what's the best opion I have if I just
want to (1) being able to (always) get a working visa if I am offered a
job, and (2) a clean-cut where I will not liable to US tax if I move to
somewhere else later. (see my original post)


Noorah101 wrote:
> > I am not a US citizen/GC holder. What's the best option if I want:
> >
> > (1) if I am able to find a job in US, I can work and live here without
> > much restrictions, AND
> > (2) if I am later move to other place to work, I don't need to pay US
> > tax (and can still come back if I find another US job)
> >
> > This seems to be not a problem in many other develoepd countries, but
> > in US it seems to be a problem:
> >
> > As H1B has annual quote and 6-year limit, (1) may not be satisfied.
> > While a US citizen/GC holder, though (1) is OK, but (2) may not bee
> > met
> > due to global tax.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> What kind of restrictions are you talking about? You mean restrictions
> as to the type of work you are allowed to do? Travel restrictions?
> Length of time in USA restrictions? You need to be more specific in
> your question.
>
>
> What kind of other place? You mean another country? You only need to
> pay US tax as long as you are working in the USA. If you move to Dubai
> to work there for a while, you won't pay US taxes (unless you worked a
> partial year here, in which case you will need to, then). If you work
> in Dubai for the next 5 years and get another job in the USA after that,
> then you'll come work in the USA again and pay US taxes.
>
> Rene
>
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