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Old 04-12-2004, 02:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
Rete
 
Posts: 9736
Default Re: Answer for Rete....

You are the one in your original post that mentioned your second wife is
not Jewish and therefore has no reason to want to live in Isreal. As
your your faith, since your mother was Jewish, so are you. The faith is
passed down through the mother and not the father.

I am saying that a
person, such as yourself, who has flaunted the rules, regulations and
laws of a country they are visiting is not a good person. They are in
the eyes of that government a criminal as you have discovered by your
ten year ban. The punish for your crime. As for your daugther, from
your former behavior there is no indication that after an initial period
in your daughter's young life that you would not abandon her just as you
abandoned your marriages. You continued to rant about the sanctity of
marriage and that it is the government that is responsible and yet you
are the one that has been married twice.

As for your marriages, the
why you married and the why they broke up, it is not my business and I
did not address that issue. It was your wives' responsibility and yours
to see that you remained within the US legally. It is apparent that
neither you or they wished to be bothered with such trivial details.


You can continue to rant Mr. Brodski, I will not respond. You are not
innocent. You are 100% guilty in my eyes and equating your behavior
with other illegals does not make you less guilty. Using the illegal
behavior of others as justification for your own illegal behavior does
not cut it with me or with the government.

Rete


Originally
posted by Alon Brodski
    > Hey!
    >
    > I never said I was completely
innocent and you're right ...I do bare some
    > responsibility here....
I never claimed to be a Saint Alan or something...BUT
    > You said :"
outside of my religion" what religion? Jewish? why do you think
    > that
every Israeli is Jewish....We do have about 1,200,000 if not more of
Israeli citizens Arabs who are mostly Muslem and some of them are
Christian...
    > And another 300,000 of other non Jewish ppl who
immigrated to Israel from
    > other countries.
    > So it's like 1,5 out of
6,2 million total population....My mom is
    > Jewish....father
wasn't...(his father was Muslem and mother Christian)As for
    > me...I
don't care,but as far as religion goes...you can tell I'm Jewish or
Christian or Muslem...and every answer would be right ...As for my 2nd
wife....she was't Christian whatsoever...in any way...nor we got married
in
    > church.
    > She was as far from religion as you can imagine...further
than me.
    > My 1st was religious,but she almost converted me :-) I even
passed a Rite of
    > Enrollment in a Lutheran church on Staten Island,NY
where we lived...
    >
    > But regardless...when I married them,the idea was
to stay in the US...not to
    > come to Israel.Why would they marry me in a
1st place if they knew I would
    > leave the US? Last,but not
least...marriage is a legal matter,not an
    > immigration one....I can
marry 10 women in the US or any other country if I
    > choose so....that's
my personal life.
    > Obviously,if they didn't care to stay married,why
they would help me in
    > anything else...but where is MY fault in it? Did
I do anything wrong to them
    > to justify a divorce? You don't know me or
them,so how can you tell who was
    > right or wrong?
    > Again....a child
was conceived few days before the marriage....Since I
    > entered the US
legally....I had a right to Adjust my status without leaving
    > the
US...therefore 10 years ban was irrelevant.It's relevant now...it wasn't

    > then....
    > May be unlike you.....I take my marriage seriously and I
don't PLAN to get
    > divorced when I get married.
    > Therefore if
everything went right,why would my child be without me there? I
    > could
have live there now happily with my 2nd wife and her 2 kids (1 of them
is mine).What's wrong about that? Add a house and a fence and it's
almost an
    > american dream,isn't it?
    > If you ask my personal
opinion,then it's not the US Gov't,but mostly my 2nd
    > wife is the one
responsible....
    > She created a problem when she married me,got pregnant
and then ran
    > away.That's more irresponsible than overstaying...
    > But
it's not she,but the Gov't who doesn't let me be f/t father for Savanna

    > and pay higher child support.
    > If US Gov't let me live in the US
anyways...then what? who would die? only
    > more child support and a
father for the baby?
    > Anything wrong about it?
    >
    > You were right
again,actually....I do have a right to visit with the baby in
    > Canada
..But it would cost more,therefore visitation is even more limited
and my ex doesn't seem to be so eager to get there..meaning Court
expenses...
    > That money and energy could be directed towards child
support and my being
    > with Savanna...
    >
    > Basically,you're saying that
if someone violated a law,he must be punished
    > or even someone innocent
must be punished with him,no matter what....even if
    > the Earth would
stop turning.....According to that logic,if I cross the
    > street on a
red light and doesn't stop walking when a PO tells me to
    > stop,then he
can kill me and few bystanders too....Punishment should be
    > adequate to
violation and no others should suffer...that's my point of view.
    >
And you're saying that if someone overstays his I-94 he can't be a good

    > father and doesn't deserve to be one?
    > Go and tell that to 8,000,000
illegals in the US :-) I would be happy to see
    > their reaction to
it...Just make sure first there's enough space to run away
    > between
them and you.
    > They have not one ,but 5 kids...esp.Mexicans.....And
very happy
    > families...may be happier than yours....
    > My guess that
most Americans in person would agree with me if they cared to
listen,but they don't care....Americans only care when they lose
something
    > personally,not before that...
    >
Alon

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Old 04-12-2004, 02:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
Alon Brodski
 
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Default Answer for Rete....

Hey!

I never said I was completely innocent and you're right ...I do bare some
responsibility here....
I never claimed to be a Saint Alan or something...BUT
You said :" outside of my religion" what religion? Jewish? why do you think
that every Israeli is Jewish....We do have about 1,200,000 if not more of
Israeli citizens Arabs who are mostly Muslem and some of them are
Christian...
And another 300,000 of other non Jewish ppl who immigrated to Israel from
other countries.
So it's like 1,5 out of 6,2 million total population....My mom is
Jewish....father wasn't...(his father was Muslem and mother Christian)As for
me...I don't care,but as far as religion goes...you can tell I'm Jewish or
Christian or Muslem...and every answer would be right ...As for my 2nd
wife....she was't Christian whatsoever...in any way...nor we got married in
church.
She was as far from religion as you can imagine...further than me.
My 1st was religious,but she almost converted me :-) I even passed a Rite of
Enrollment in a Lutheran church on Staten Island,NY where we lived...

But regardless...when I married them,the idea was to stay in the US...not to
come to Israel.Why would they marry me in a 1st place if they knew I would
leave the US? Last,but not least...marriage is a legal matter,not an
immigration one....I can marry 10 women in the US or any other country if I
choose so....that's my personal life.
Obviously,if they didn't care to stay married,why they would help me in
anything else...but where is MY fault in it? Did I do anything wrong to them
to justify a divorce? You don't know me or them,so how can you tell who was
right or wrong?
Again....a child was conceived few days before the marriage....Since I
entered the US legally....I had a right to Adjust my status without leaving
the US...therefore 10 years ban was irrelevant.It's relevant now...it wasn't
then....
May be unlike you.....I take my marriage seriously and I don't PLAN to get
divorced when I get married.
Therefore if everything went right,why would my child be without me there? I
could have live there now happily with my 2nd wife and her 2 kids (1 of them
is mine).What's wrong about that? Add a house and a fence and it's almost an
american dream,isn't it?
If you ask my personal opinion,then it's not the US Gov't,but mostly my 2nd
wife is the one responsible....
She created a problem when she married me,got pregnant and then ran
away.That's more irresponsible than overstaying...
But it's not she,but the Gov't who doesn't let me be f/t father for Savanna
and pay higher child support.
If US Gov't let me live in the US anyways...then what? who would die? only
more child support and a father for the baby?
Anything wrong about it?

You were right again,actually....I do have a right to visit with the baby in
Canada ...But it would cost more,therefore visitation is even more limited
and my ex doesn't seem to be so eager to get there..meaning Court
expenses...
That money and energy could be directed towards child support and my being
with Savanna...

Basically,you're saying that if someone violated a law,he must be punished
or even someone innocent must be punished with him,no matter what....even if
the Earth would stop turning.....According to that logic,if I cross the
street on a red light and doesn't stop walking when a PO tells me to
stop,then he can kill me and few bystanders too....Punishment should be
adequate to violation and no others should suffer...that's my point of view.

And you're saying that if someone overstays his I-94 he can't be a good
father and doesn't deserve to be one?
Go and tell that to 8,000,000 illegals in the US :-) I would be happy to see
their reaction to it...Just make sure first there's enough space to run away
between them and you.
They have not one ,but 5 kids...esp.Mexicans.....And very happy
families...may be happier than yours....
My guess that most Americans in person would agree with me if they cared to
listen,but they don't care....Americans only care when they lose something
personally,not before that...

Alon
 
Old 04-12-2004, 02:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
Supernav
 
Posts: 432
Default Re: Answer for Rete....

As a representative of the United States of America -- let me give you a
free reality check:

Next time you drop your sperm in some foreign dame,
make sure you at least have PERMISSION to live in that country first.


Don't "assume" you'll get permission later. You saw what happened
when you "ass"umed.

good day.

-= nav =-

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