Earl Evleth

The process of the US installing military bases possibly in Poland and
already in parts of what was the USSR is possibly provocative. It goes
against my geopolitical sensitivities. If Canada agreed to having
some Russian bases on its territory, would that bother the US?.

The territorial imperative is a complicated human instinct.

Earl

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Poland in Talks on Hosting U.S. Military Bases

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WARSAW (Reuters) - Poland has launched negotiations with Washington on
hosting U.S. military bases on its territory, Defense Minister Jerzy
Szmajdzinski said Thursday.


"We expect the second round of consultations on the issue of bases early
this year. It's too early to give any details," Szmajdzinski told the
parliament's defense committee.

He added Poland was generally in favor of hosting the bases, but the issue
of who would cover their operating costs remained open.

The United States began a diplomatic offensive last month in a dozen
European capitals to discuss a redeployment strategy expected to involve
closing bases in western Europe and reflect a greater NATO ( news -web sites
) focus on the east and south.

Poland, a staunch supporter of the war in Iraq ( news -web sites ), could
see one of the biggest build-ups of U.S. forces in Europe on its territory,
diplomats say.

Poland joined NATO along with the Czech Republic and Hungary in 1999 -- 10
years after they toppled communist rule and escaped from the former Soviet
Union bloc. Seven more countries, mostly ex-Soviet satellites, will join the
alliance this year.

Russia has expressed concern over any U.S. military moves closer to its
border. But Washington has said any redeployment of troops to eastern Europe
was intended to tackle new security threats and was in no way directed
against Moscow.

Szmajdzinski declined, however, to confirm a newspaper report that American
forces could take over an air base at Powidz, to the west of Warsaw.

Tim Kroesen

WTF does this have to do with travel?

Tim K


"Earl Evleth" <> wrote in message
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127 . 0 . 0 . 1

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:42:49 -0500, "Tim Kroesen" <>
wrote:

    >WTF does this have to do with travel?

it is rare that anything this troll posts is on topic. He is too
chicken to post his moronic views on a political newsgroup because
they'd chew his ignorant ass off and spit it out



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"127.0.0.1" <> wrote in message
news:...
    > On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:42:49 -0500, "Tim Kroesen"
<>
    > wrote:
    > >WTF does this have to do with travel?
    > >
    > it is rare that anything this troll posts is on
topic. He is too
    > chicken to post his moronic views on a political
newsgroup because
    > they'd chew his ignorant ass off and spit it out

I enjoy Earl's perspective on things. What have
you contributed to this group?

Tom

Tim Kroesen

Exactly!

One can only wonder what view (and action) his ISP might take of his
hundreds of off topic posts per month...

Complaints-To: if you're so inclined.

Now here come his 'regular' lackeys to point fingers... I'm sure they
can imagine which finger I've got in reply; since Earl 'Gauche' Evleth
himself broached the subject for them.

Tim K

"127.0.0.1" <> wrote in message
news:...
    > On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:42:49 -0500, "Tim Kroesen" <>
    > wrote:
    > >WTF does this have to do with travel?
    > >
    > it is rare that anything this troll posts is on topic. He is too
    > chicken to post his moronic views on a political newsgroup because
    > they'd chew his ignorant ass off and spit it out

Tim Kroesen

Perhaps you should enjoy that perspective where it is topically welcome?

Tim K

"Tom Bellhouse" <> wrote in message
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    > "127.0.0.1" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:42:49 -0500, "Tim Kroesen"
    > <>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > >WTF does this have to do with travel?
    > > >
    > >
    > > it is rare that anything this troll posts is on
    > topic. He is too
    > > chicken to post his moronic views on a political
    > newsgroup because
    > > they'd chew his ignorant ass off and spit it out
    > >
    > I enjoy Earl's perspective on things. What have
    > you contributed to this group?
    > Tom

Tom Bellhouse

"Tim Kroesen" <> wrote in message
news:...
    > Perhaps you should enjoy that perspective where
it is topically welcome?
    > Tim K
    > "Tom Bellhouse" <> wrote in
message
    > news:y_jLb.22$...
    > >
    > > "127.0.0.1" <> wrote in message
    > >
news:...
    > > > On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:42:49 -0500, "Tim
Kroesen"
    > > <>
    > > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >WTF does this have to do with travel?
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > it is rare that anything this troll posts is
on
    > > topic. He is too
    > > > chicken to post his moronic views on a
political
    > > newsgroup because
    > > > they'd chew his ignorant ass off and spit it
out
    > > >
    > >
    > > I enjoy Earl's perspective on things. What
have
    > > you contributed to this group?
    > >
    > > Tom
    > >

Most of what Earl chooses to discuss is of
importance to anybody going to Europe. It's
helpful to have first-hand impressions, by an
American "embedded" in France, of European
attitudes toward the US. France is probably one
of the most-visited European destinations for
American and Canadian tourists. Earl's commentary
on French society can add depth to one's
perceptions of that country, and thus are entirely
appropriate to a travel newsgroup IMHO.

Travel is more than "getting someplace." The
greater the depth of information we have about our
destinations beforehand, the more we see and
understand once we get there. Earl's and Donna's
observations about their lives in Paris fill in
lots of facts (and opinions) that guide books
leave out, and I appreciate them even when I
disagree.

Tom

Tim Kroesen

Oh PLEASE... This isn't rec.travel.observing anti-American attitudes...

"Most" of what he posts is simply Off Topic American Trollery; to the
revelry of Left-Wing, and equally off topic commentators.

Earl an American? By 'dual citizenship' only as his own words would
indicate:

"Earl Evleth" <> wrote in message
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    > Although 72, I have spent more than half my adult life in France,
    > specifically in Paris. So I am a Europeanized (Frenchfied) ex-pat
    > in that since, my opinions are bound to be a synthesis of both
    > American and French attitudes and based on my social class.
    > We are all largely "plastic" in the hands of our cultures, we
    > have some effect on how we are shaped but I suspect we fool
    > ourselves in underestimating the effects of our environment....


TO his defense; when he *is* on topic he *can* be insightful.

Tim K

"Tom Bellhouse" <> wrote in message
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    > Most of what Earl chooses to discuss is of
    > importance to anybody going to Europe. It's
    > helpful to have first-hand impressions, by an
    > American "embedded" in France, of European
    > attitudes toward the US

Tom Bellhouse

"Tim Kroesen" <> wrote in message
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    > Oh PLEASE... This isn't rec.travel.observing
anti-American attitudes...
(SNIP)

OK, Tim, from now on let's only have posts like
"Come to Wonderful Spamstria", "Is an
International Driver's License Necessary", "Best
Hotel in Paris Under $50?" and "10 Countries in 3
Days -- Too Much?"

Tom

Tim Kroesen

Why snip that which makes us agree...<g>

"TO his defense; when he *is* on topic he *can* be insightful."
(TK)

Will you likewise agree Earl is often completely off topic and clearly
looking for an argument; or an off topic Left-Fest...

Tim K

"Tom Bellhouse" <> wrote in message
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    > "Tim Kroesen" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Oh PLEASE... This isn't rec.travel.observing
    > anti-American attitudes...
    > >
    > (SNIP)
    > OK, Tim, from now on let's only have posts like
    > "Come to Wonderful Spamstria", "Is an
    > International Driver's License Necessary", "Best
    > Hotel in Paris Under $50?" and "10 Countries in 3
    > Days -- Too Much?"
    > Tom