Guy 1000 2000

Hi,
I want to assess my application in 2231-79 (Network Security).

Im providing secure communicaiton in LAN environment since 1998 ,
microsoft servers, proxy servers and 3 party security softwares etc.

I have passed MCSE, CCNA, MCP, Diploma in network engineering and
Bachelors in Computer Sciences (3 years but not Recognized degree) .
Last time my application assess in 2231-79 in RPL.

Now i again want to assess my application but one agent told me that i
didnt required to assess my application in RPL. You may qualify without
RPL.

1) May i required to assess my application in RPL ??

2) Am i qualify in MODL (Network Security) ?

3) If i submit my applicaiton in MODL and if they think that im not
qualify in MODL then what will happen ? will they reject my application
or will they assess my application without MODL ?

George Lombard

> Hi,
> I want to assess my application in 2231-79 (Network Security).
> Im providing secure communicaiton in LAN environment since 1998 ,
> microsoft servers, proxy servers and 3 party security softwares etc.
> I have passed MCSE, CCNA, MCP, Diploma in network engineering and
> Bachelors in Computer Sciences (3 years but not Recognized degree) .
> Last time my application assess in 2231-79 in RPL.
> Now i again want to assess my application but one agent told me that i
> didnt required to assess my application in RPL. You may qualify
> without
> RPL.
> 1) May i required to assess my application in RPL ??
> 2) Am i qualify in MODL (Network Security) ?
> 3) If i submit my applicaiton in MODL and if they think that im not
> qualify in MODL then what will happen ? will they reject my
> application
> or will they assess my application without MODL ?

Hi Guy,

Tell us about the security technologies you use.

George Lombard

www.austimmigration.com.au

Darylh

> Hi,
> I want to assess my application in 2231-79 (Network Security).
> Im providing secure communicaiton in LAN environment since 1998 ,
> microsoft servers, proxy servers and 3 party security softwares etc.
> I have passed MCSE, CCNA, MCP, Diploma in network engineering and
> Bachelors in Computer Sciences (3 years but not Recognized degree) .
> Last time my application assess in 2231-79 in RPL.
> Now i again want to assess my application but one agent told me that i
> didnt required to assess my application in RPL. You may qualify
> without
> RPL.
> 1) May i required to assess my application in RPL ??
> 2) Am i qualify in MODL (Network Security) ?
> 3) If i submit my applicaiton in MODL and if they think that im not
> qualify in MODL then what will happen ? will they reject my
> application
> or will they assess my application without MODL ?

You shouldn't require RPL as the MCSE will put you in category B with
the ACS (equivalent to a Diploma). Not sure if you'll be able to claim
on 2231-79 though. You may need to demonstrate experience in a
dedicated security role (such as security analyst). If you've taken a
security elective as part of your MCSE that may help. I'm a CISSP and
MCSE but unfortunately I applied before Network Security was on the
MODL. I've still got enough points it just would have processed quicker
on the MODL I think.

Daryl

--

Guy 1000 2000

i had already got suitable letter from acs in 2231-79 AQF DIPLOMA and
now its expire but last time i apply in RPL category by mistake. Now i
again want to assess my application and i want to know that is it
necessary to apply in RPL category or i can apply without RPL ??
because i think i dont need to apply in RPL because i already fall in
category B, AQF DIPLOMA but someone told me that u must submit the case
in RPL because last time ur application assess in RPL. Im lil confused.

Is RPL processing fast ? how much it takes time in ACS and in
immigration process ??

My MCSE was on NT 4.0 and then i passed accelerated exam on windows
2000 and CCNA.

My elective was PROXY SERVER 2.0, TCP/IP.

Im providing security in lan using cisco routers configuration, access
list, vlan, etc
administrating windows 2000, NT, active directory, proxy server,
polices , security,, etc.

which kind of network security they required in MODL ?? im going to
apply in 2231-79(Network Security)

thanx

Darylh

> i had already got suitable letter from acs in 2231-79 AQF DIPLOMA and
> now its expire but last time i apply in RPL category by mistake. Now i
> again want to assess my application and i want to know that is it
> necessary to apply in RPL category or i can apply without RPL ??
> because i think i dont need to apply in RPL because i already fall in
> category B, AQF DIPLOMA but someone told me that u must submit the
> case
> in RPL because last time ur application assess in RPL. Im lil
> confused.
> Is RPL processing fast ? how much it takes time in ACS and in
> immigration process ??
> My MCSE was on NT 4.0 and then i passed accelerated exam on windows
> 2000 and CCNA.
> My elective was PROXY SERVER 2.0, TCP/IP.
> Im providing security in lan using cisco routers configuration, access
> list, vlan, etc
> administrating windows 2000, NT, active directory, proxy server,
> polices , security,, etc.
> which kind of network security they required in MODL ?? im going to
> apply in 2231-79(Network Security)
> thanx

I'm not sure for certain but I would guess that to distinguish between
general Network Administration (which you seem to describe) and Network
Security you may need qualifications and/or experience with things such
as Firewalls (Checkpoint/Netscreen/Cisco PIX etc), IDS/IPS,
Vulnerability scanners, etc - the usual stuff that a network security
analyst will deal with. I guess it all depends on how the ACS define
Network Security.

Daryl

--

Guy 1000 2000

One question :
I had already assess my application in RPL. Now i again want to
re-asses my application in Normal Assessment (Without RPL)

I will submit AUS$ 100/- for re-assessment fee.

Kindly tell me that how much fee should i submit for re-assess my
application.

Dont forget that last time my application assess in RPL category,,
Can i submit AUS$ 100/- for normal re-assessment (Without RPL) ??

or should i submit AUS$ 350/- for normal assessment ?

Sunburn

> One question :
> I had already assess my application in RPL. Now i again want to
> re-asses my application in Normal Assessment (Without RPL)
> I will submit AUS$ 100/- for re-assessment fee.
> Kindly tell me that how much fee should i submit for re-assess my
> application.
> Dont forget that last time my application assess in RPL category,,
> Can i submit AUS$ 100/- for normal re-assessment (Without RPL) ??
> or should i submit AUS$ 350/- for normal assessment ?

Hi Guy,

Curious as to how you're getting on. I'm considering this "network
security"
Been in networking last 10 years and am a recertified Cisco CCNP/CCDP
and worked on firewalls etc. for last 6 years. Still slogging at the
qual's for the CV but the ACS definiton all seems a bit hazy....

Seems like you just have to bite the bullet and apply...had any
recent news ?

Best of Luck

Graham

--

Jonathanb

> Hi Guy,
> Curious as to how you're getting on. I'm considering this "network
> security"
> Been in networking last 10 years and am a recertified Cisco CCNP/CCDP
> and worked on firewalls etc. for last 6 years. Still slogging at the
> qual's for the CV but the ACS definiton all seems a bit hazy....
> Seems like you just have to bite the bullet and apply...had any
> recent news ?
> Best of Luck
> Graham

I am also curious as to what they define network security. I thought
it would be working on firewalls etc however this looks like it would
be covered by Computing Professional - specialising in CISSP more
than Computing Professional - specialising in Network Security.
Looking at the CBOK I would think that network security is more
general security of the network and not the wan but then again who
knows what they are thinking.

One of the comments on the RPL pack is that they need to provide clarity
and help for applications but this does not seem to happen.

--

Guy 1000 2000

hi,
do you think that im not qualify ? im working on ISA servers and its
also a firewall. i think its not compulsory that u must work on cisco
or u r CISSP qualified.

They dont mention in ( MODL ) network security that u must have CISSP.
In 2003 CISSP was in MODL but now they only mention NETWORK SECURITY in
MODL and it means that CISSP is not compulsory and u can provide
network security in any enviroment and u can use any firewall.

I think they want to see that how u r providing network security in ur
environment. If anything match from their list then u can qualify for
MODL.

Could anyone tell me that what is the processing time of MODL in DIMA ?

and if MODL would change during DIMA immigration process then what will
happen ?






jonathanb wrote:
> > Hi Guy,
> >
> > Curious as to how you're getting on. I'm considering this "network
> > security"
> > Been in networking last 10 years and am a recertified Cisco CCNP/CCDP
> > and worked on firewalls etc. for last 6 years. Still slogging at the
> > qual's for the CV but the ACS definiton all seems a bit hazy....
> >
> > Seems like you just have to bite the bullet and apply...had any
> > recent news ?
> >
> > Best of Luck
> >
> > Graham
> I am also curious as to what they define network security. I thought
> it would be working on firewalls etc however this looks like it would
> be covered by Computing Professional - specialising in CISSP more
> than Computing Professional - specialising in Network Security.
> Looking at the CBOK I would think that network security is more
> general security of the network and not the wan but then again who
> knows what they are thinking.
> One of the comments on the RPL pack is that they need to provide clarity
> and help for applications but this does not seem to happen.
>
> --
>

Stacnet

> hi,
> do you think that im not qualify ? im working on ISA servers and its
> also a firewall. i think its not compulsory that u must work on cisco
> or u r CISSP qualified.
>
> They dont mention in ( MODL ) network security that u must have CISSP.
> In 2003 CISSP was in MODL but now they only mention NETWORK SECURITY
> in
> MODL and it means that CISSP is not compulsory and u can provide
> network security in any enviroment and u can use any firewall.
>
> I think they want to see that how u r providing network security in ur
> environment. If anything match from their list then u can qualify for
> MODL.
>
> Could anyone tell me that what is the processing time of MODL
> in DIMA ?
>
> and if MODL would change during DIMA immigration process then what
> will
> happen ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> jonathanb wrote:
> > > Hi Guy,
> > >
> > > Curious as to how you're getting on. I'm considering this
> > > "network
> > > security"
> > > Been in networking last 10 years and am a recertified Cisco
> > > CCNP/CCDP
> > > and worked on firewalls etc. for last 6 years. Still slogging at
> > > the
> > > qual's for the CV but the ACS definiton all seems a bit hazy....
> > >
> > > Seems like you just have to bite the bullet and apply...had any
> > > recent news ?
> > >
> > > Best of Luck
> > >
> > > Graham
> > I am also curious as to what they define network security. I thought
> > it would be working on firewalls etc however this looks like it
> > would
> > be covered by Computing Professional - specialising in CISSP more
> > than Computing Professional - specialising in Network Security.
> > Looking at the CBOK I would think that network security is more
> > general security of the network and not the wan but then again who
> > knows what they are thinking.
> > One of the comments on the RPL pack is that they need to provide
> > clarity
> > and help for applications but this does not seem to happen.
> >
> > --
> > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Dear Colleagues...

I am a bit confused with regards to what route to follow regarding my
skills assessment.

I hold a 3 year engineering diploma in Electronics and Telecommunication
engineering and hold the following Certs - CISSP, CISA, CCNP, CCDA,
CCNA,MCSE (NT4 and Win2k), RHCT(Red Hat Certified Technician).

I have been working in the ISP industry since 2001 and handle LANS,
WANS, Broadband Wireless, Messaging, Content and Network Security.

Do i need to go the RPL route? I see some info on this thread with
regards to Group B for MCSE, is that still current?

ANy advise would be helpfull...

Regards

Stacnet