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Old 01-18-2006, 11:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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my wife and my son don't intend to emigrate to Canada with me. i don't
know how to write the application a notarized statutory declaration.
and is it disadvantage to immigration.
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Old 01-18-2006, 02:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
Internet.support
 
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> my wife and my son don't intend to emigrate to Canada with me. i don't
> know how to write the application a notarized statutory declaration.
> and is it disadvantage to immigration.
you may require more than a notarised declaration (more along a higher legal
paper e.g divorce etc.) and yes it may affect your application esp. in terms
of processing times.
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Old 01-18-2006, 05:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
 
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, wrote:
> my wife and my son don't intend to emigrate to Canada with me.
> i don't know how to write the application a notarized
> statutory declaration. and is it disadvantage to immigration.

Unless you can show legal (court) documents proving your
separation, then even if your wife don't intent to immigrate,
you still need her to go through medical and security check for
you to be allowed to immigrate.

And even if you are legally separate, if your son is under 22,
he also still need to go through medical and security check,
unless there is a legal (court) documents saying somebody else
other than you have full custody for the son.

Also keep in mind that if you do have the documents and get the
to immigrate without your wife and son going through medical and
security check, then you cannot sponsor your wife and son as
family forever under any circumstances (even if let's say your
wife pass away and you become the only family your son have in
the world).
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Old 01-19-2006, 03:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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my son is 3 years. my son is too young, so my wife must take care for
he in china. she and my son intend to migrate to canada after my son
is more 8 years. i only care if has it disadvantage to my immigration?
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Old 01-19-2006, 04:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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> my son is 3 years. my son is too young, so my wife must take care for
> he in china. she and my son intend to migrate to canada after my son
> is more 8 years. i only care if has it disadvantage to my immigration?

You are going to leave you wife and your son without his father for 5 years?

That's messed up.

You are a bad father.
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Old 01-19-2006, 06:04 AM   #6 (permalink)
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<> wrote in message
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> my son is 3 years. my son is too young, so my wife must take care for
> he in china. she and my son intend to migrate to canada after my son
> is more 8 years. i only care if has it disadvantage to my immigration?
Short answer is yes it may.
While you may have your reasons for the type of arrangement you propose, it
makes more sense for you all to move.
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Old 01-22-2006, 08:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
 
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Freewill wrote:
> You are going to leave you wife and your son without his
> father for 5 years?
> That's messed up.

There are actually many cases - especially in Toronto - where
the extreme difficulties to find descent job for new immigrants
cause these new immigrants cannot afford to raise their new born
- Canadian citizen - child: if only one parent works, the money
not enough, if two parents work, they cannot afford the daycare.
The queue for subsidized daycare is unbelivably long, and these
parents prefer their children raised by family anyway, so they
send their children to their home country to be raised by
grandparents or other relatives until the reaching school age.
At that time the child return to Canada to go to school, which
reduce the day care need.

Considering this, what the OP thinking to do is actually make
sense, and in fact better than the above situation. At least the
child still raised by the mother.
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" <> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Freewill wrote:
>> You are going to leave you wife and your son without his father for 5
>> years?
>> That's messed up.
> There are actually many cases - especially in Toronto - where the extreme
> difficulties to find descent job for new immigrants cause these new
> immigrants cannot afford to raise their new born - Canadian citizen -
> child: if only one parent works, the money not enough, if two parents
> work, they cannot afford the daycare. The queue for subsidized daycare is
> unbelivably long, and these parents prefer their children raised by family
> anyway, so they send their children to their home country to be raised by
> grandparents or other relatives until the reaching school age. At that
> time the child return to Canada to go to school, which reduce the day care
> need.
> Considering this, what the OP thinking to do is actually make sense, and
> in fact better than the above situation. At least the child still raised
> by the mother.

This is an inferior solution motivated by greed.

If an immigrant cannot find decent enough work to raise a family to their
satisfaction in Canada, they should not come to Canada.

It's no good for them and no good for Canada.
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Old 01-22-2006, 08:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
 
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006, Freewill wrote:
> This is an inferior solution motivated by greed.

Really? How can you tell the motivation is greed?

Most of immigrants from third world country have better
socio-economic level where they came from. Many of them actually
make more money in their home country than in Canada. And you
said they try very hard to stay in Canada for greed because ...
?

> If an immigrant cannot find decent enough work to raise a
> family to their satisfaction in Canada, they should not come
> to Canada.
> It's no good for them and no good for Canada.

So what you are saying is that anybody who cannot work to afford
their life in Canada, have no business live in Canada, and as
much as possible have to be kicked out of Canada, is that
correct?
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Old 01-22-2006, 11:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" <> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006, Freewill wrote:
>> This is an inferior solution motivated by greed.
> Really? How can you tell the motivation is greed?
> Most of immigrants from third world country have better socio-economic
> level where they came from. Many of them actually make more money in their
> home country than in Canada. And you said they try very hard to stay in
> Canada for greed because ... ?

Could you provide evidence that most third world immigrants to Canada fare
better economically in their home countries. I find it hard to believe,
considering the taxpayer funded social benefits and higher standard of
living available here. From my viewpoint economic migration is the primary
sort.

>> If an immigrant cannot find decent enough work to raise a family to their
>> satisfaction in Canada, they should not come to Canada.
>> It's no good for them and no good for Canada.
> So what you are saying is that anybody who cannot work to afford their
> life in Canada, have no business live in Canada, and as much as possible
> have to be kicked out of Canada, is that correct?

I am not saying that they should be kicked out. If they engage in criminal
activity prior to attaining their citizenship, or lie during immigration
procedures, yes. Restating what I did mean to imply, if immigrants can not
secure adequate employment to support themselves and any family members that
they bring with them prior to landing, they should be denied. Canadian taxes
are high enough, and services under enough pressure already to continue
providing them to those who have not paid a cent into the system.

But back to the main point. The man from China who wants to leave his young
son fatherless for 5 years is still in my mind making an extreme error of
judgement that should not be tolerated. As a father, I am appalled that
another man would even consider such a measure. He should make arrangements
in China so that when he uproots himself and his family into a totally
foreign country and culture that they can survive. He should spend his 5
years with his family, raising his son, learning English, and getting a
useful education, so that he can achieve his goal without sacrificing his
dignity.
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