Oliver Costich

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:03:10 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
<root@localhost.> wrote:

    >On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:42:49 -0500, Oliver Costich
    ><olc-> wrote:
    >>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 22:56:21 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
    >><root@localhost.> wrote:
    >>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:42:36 -0500, Oliver Costich
    >>><olc-> wrote:
    >>>>On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:59:43 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
    >>>><root@localhost.> wrote:
    >>>>>On 13 Nov 2004 12:11:43 -0800, (Madeira) wrote:
    >>>>>>Illegals cost us $10 billion (yes, BILLION) dollars a year, just in
    >>>>>>Federal money.
    >>>>>There's no reason for this to be the way it is. Eliminate social
    >>>>>problems and this cost will disappear overnight.
    >>>>What social problems did you have in mind? How would you eliminate
    >>>>them?
    >>>Whoops! I meant social programs.
    >>I sympathize, but it's not gonna happen (get rid of social programs).
    >>Beyond that, the issue of illegals would still be here unless you also
    >>enforce laws against employing them.
    >Illegals wouldn't be a problem if they weren't consuming "free" social
    >services. If they had to pay for all the services they get in the US,
    >while getting 5 bucks an hour, they wouldn't find it so attractive to
    >immigrate. At the end of the end, economics determines the outcome.

Only in a narrow sense. The people who benefit from cheap labor are
the people who make campaign contributions. The rest of us continue to
pay to subsidize this.

I have suggested in the past that if employers of illegals had to pay
all their social costs, especially health care and education, they
would hire Americans instead.