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Old 01-27-2004, 05:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
Renee
 
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Default Re: Help !! Temporary Resident Visa

Just wanted to add something about the "multiple entry" notation on my
initial temporary resident visa. When I received my two renewals, that
notation was gone. I took that to mean that now that I was an inland PR
applicant, I no longer had the ability to leave Canada while that
application is in process. Inland means that the applicant is inside
Canada. As I said in my other post, I never took the chance of leaving,
even though my visa said it was valid for multiple entry.

Also to clarify my own wording - your boyfriend can apply for a TRV at a
Canadian border crossing, but I don't think he can do it from the U.S. since
he normally wouldn't require a travel document for entry.

Renee

--
Inland Spouse Timeline so far (U.S. Citizen):
19 Feb 2003: Moved to Calgary from U.S. on 6 month TRV
12 May 2003: Did medicals in Calgary
20 June 2003: Applied for TRV extension
5 July 2003: Wedding Date
17 July 2003: CIC received inland spouse PR application
15 Aug 2003: Received 6 month TRV extension
20 Aug 2003: CIC request for work history dates (which were sent with
application)
21 Aug 2003: CIC received work history reply by overnight post
4 Sept 2003: CIC e-Client finally shows "in process"
21 Nov 2003: Applied for second TRV extension
16 Jan 2004: Received second 6 month TRV extension


"Renee" <reneeno.spam.@shaw.spamguard.ca> wrote in message
news:XGxRb.306197$ts4.99895@pd7tw3no...
    > Hi kittykat,
    > To apply to extend your boyfriend's stay in Canada, go here for the
    > forms.... http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/visitor.html
    > I got my first temporary resident visa when I first arrived in Calgary to
    > stay last February. I came to Calgary International Airport and told the
    > officer at the passport stamping line that I wanted to apply for a six
month
    > visa, as I was marrying a Canadian on July 5, and I wanted to ensure that
I
    > had legal status, and a document that I could renew. I told them at that
    > time that I would be submitting an inland spouse application after the
    > wedding, and they issued a six-month visa with a CIC client number. I
used
    > the link above to renew it. I don't think your boyfriend can apply for a
    > TRV from the U.S. since he normally wouldn't require a travel document to
    > enter. If he's already here, then he just needs to apply to extend his
    > stay. The forms at the link above ask him about his most recent entry, so
    > they'll go from there.
    > As I said in my initial reply to you, I'm not sure about the review
process
    > for a common-law partner vs. a spouse. I know the forms are the same, and
    > the overall process is the same, but I thought I'd read on this newsgroup
a
    > few times that common-law applicants must have been living together
    > continuously. I knew someone else would read the thread and add to it,
but
    > I wanted to put the idea there just in case. Sounds like others have said
    > you're fine if the 12 months aren't consecutive. If that's true, then I'm
    > sorry if I alarmed you!
    > The immigrations officer who issued my initial visa told me that leaving
    > Canada can cancel an inland application, and she strongly advised me not
to
    > leave. She noted "multiple entry" on my initial visa, but she also said
    > that another officer could still refuse to let me enter, especially once I
    > submitted my PR application. I didn't want to take any chances.
    > The other place I've read the caveat about leaving Canada is in the guide
    > for inland applicants. I think they've updated the guide since I first
    > downloaded it last spring, but this quote comes from page 23... "If you
    > leave Canada before permanent residence is approved there is no guarantee
    > that you will be allowed to return or re-enter Canada. This is especially
    > true if you require a visitor visa. Your application may be refused or
    > delayed if you no longer have temporary resident status to qualify as a
    > member of the Spouse or Common-law partner in Canada class."
    > The other issue with leaving Canada is that, from reading this newgroup, I
    > would be concerned about the issue of dual intent. From what I've seen
    > here, immigrations officers technically shouldn't allow you to enter
Canada
    > as a visitor if you already have an application for permanent residency
    > pending. The dual intent is saying you want to be a visitor, when you've
    > already said you want to be a permanent resident. I've also read here
that
    > immigrations officers are often more tolerant about dual intent when it's
a
    > spouse involved, but I'm not taking any chances by leaving. Maybe they
were
    > being lenient by giving me the visa the first time - after all, I honestly
    > declared that I would be marrying on this visit, and would later be
applying
    > for PR.
    > I thought that the inland category was created so that families wouldn't
    > have to be apart. The experts on this group have said that processing at
    > Buffalo is faster than inland processing because they've made family class
a
    > priority when dealing with overseas applications. The idea is that you
    > don't have to be apart from your loved one any longer than necessary.
I've
    > been waiting just over six months already, and I'm hoping that I'll hear
    > something within the next month now that they're within two weeks of my
    > application date. If you are going to have your boyfriend leave for
periods
    > of time, it may have been faster to submit the application through CPC
    > Missassauga and the Buffalo consulate. There's a lady on this group who
got
    > her husband's PR through Buffalo in an incredible three months! I was
    > surely jealous of that timeline! Happy for her, but mad that I've
been
    > waiting twice as long with no legal work status and watching my savings
    > account dwindle. Inland processing was faster when I applied, but times
    > have definitely changed.
    > It doesn't make sense to me that CIC expects inland applicants to remain
out
    > of work until the AIP phase, yet they will allow an applicant to leave
    > because of business matters. Their own rule says that inland applicants
    > have to have legal status in Canada at all times during the processing
    > period, so leaving for any reason would cause a loss of legal status.
Don't
    > get me wrong, I'm not trying to be a grinch but I'm going by the
    > information in the guide, and the expert advice I've been reading on this
    > forum for the past year. I have an 80 year old grandfather back in
Virginia
    > who is one of only three family members, and I've been praying that
nothing
    > happens to him while I can't leave Canada without jeopardizing my
    > application. My Canadian status is too important to me to risk, but at
the
    > same time, I'd feel terrible if I couldn't get back for a couple of days
in
    > a family emergency. If I tried to come back and was refused, I'd have
just
    > wasted the last six months of PR processing, as well as being out of work
    > for almost a year since I moved here ahead of my wedding.
    > On page 23 of the guide, it says that "in order to receive permanent
    > resident status, you must meet the eligibility requirements detailed in
the
    > table Whom May I Sponsor, on the day CIC receives your application, while
    > your application for permanent residence in in process, AND when permanent
    > resident status is confirmed."
    > Under Whom May I Sponsor on page 5, it says that both spouses and
common-law
    > partners must have valid legal or unexpired status in Canada as a visitor,
    > student, or temporary worker. It then says the individual must be living
    > with you in Canada. When you said your boyfriend left for two months,
    > that's what made me remember the warning in the applicant guide. I'm sure
    > he still considers his residence with you to be his primary one, but I
also
    > was a bit concerned that a long absence may raise a flag with an officer.
I
    > hope not, and I hope your case goes smoothly!
    > Anyway, this post is really long, so I'll close it for now. Best wishes
    > with your case!
    > Renee
    > --
    > Inland Spouse Timeline so far (U.S. Citizen):
    > 19 Feb 2003: Moved to Calgary from U.S. on 6 month TRV
    > 12 May 2003: Did medicals in Calgary
    > 20 June 2003: Applied for TRV extension
    > 5 July 2003: Wedding Date
    > 18 July 2003: CIC received inland spouse PR application
    > 15 Aug 2003: Received 6 month TRV extension
    > 20 Aug 2003: CIC request for work history dates (which were sent with
    > application)
    > 21 Aug 2003: CIC received work history reply by overnight post
    > 4 Sept 2003: CIC e-Client finally shows "in process"
    > 21 Nov 2003: Applied for second TRV extension
    > 16 Jan 2004: Received second 6 month TRV extension
    > "kittykat" <member15263@british_expats.com> wrote in message
    > news:1201970.1075172982@britishexpats.com...
    > >
    > > Thanks Renee,
    > >
    > > The spousal inland application is almost the same as
    > > the common law one. The requirements are the same. My bf and I have
    > > been together for 7 years and have been common law for 4 years. I
    > > have confirmed with an immigration consultant that our case is
    > > acceptable considering co-habitation could be non continual due to
    > > business, family affairs outside Canada.
    > >
    > > How do I go about
    > > applying for a visitor's visa for him when he is already here? I
    > > think we will be waiting for the first approval stage from CIC (if
    > > it is not more than 4 months he's been here), then he will apply for
    > > a vistor's visa (normally takes atleast 2 months to process). I
    > > think he would apply for a vistor's visa in NY. In your case, where
    > > did you submit your initial vistor's visa application?
    > >
    > > I appreciate
    > > your advice.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Originally posted by Renee
    > > >
    > > Applicants have to remain in Canada with legal status through a
    > > Temporary
    > > > Resident Visa, a study permit, or a work permit, for the
    > > entire duration of
    > > > an inland application.
    > > >
    > > > One of the
    > > requirements to submit an inland PR application is that the
    > > >
    > > applicant has legal status in Canada from the date the application
    > > is
    > > > submitted through the date the applicant successfully lands as
    > > a new
    > > > permanent resident. Leaving Canada means that your common-
    > > law partner had
    > > > time where he did not have legal status. You're
    > > right that he doesn't need
    > > > a travel document to enter Canada, and
    > > that he can remain here for up to six
    > > > months with a passport
    > > stamp, but CIC stresses in the inland guide for
    > > > applicants that
    > > leaving Canada can cancel your application. You say he came
    > > > back
    > > without a problem, so you may not have to worry. I'm just going by
    > >
    > > > what the guide says.
    > > >
    > > > It's standard for us inland applicants
    > > to have to renew our temporary
    > > > document. I'm on my second renewal
    > > myself. I applied for a temporary
    > > > resident visa when I first
    > > arrived in Calgary last February. I would think
    > > > in your partner's
    > > case, he would apply to extend his stay in Canada once his
    > > > six-
    > > month date approaches. He still has his last entry information to
    > > use
    > > > on the application, even if he doesn't have a paper visa. I
    > > don't think you
    > > > can apply for a new temporary resident visa once
    > > you're already inside
    > > > Canada.
    > > >
    > > > More importantly, I thought
    > > that common-law partners qualified by virtue of
    > > > living together
    > > for at least the last twelve months consecutively. If he
    > > > goes
    > > back to the U.S., then that breaks up the twelve months. I'm not
    > > sure
    > > > whether that will cause a problem with their review of the
    > > common-law
    > > > relationship.
    > > >
    > > > You can check the current processing
    > > estimates here -
    > > > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/times/process-
    > > in.html"]http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/times/process-
    > > in.html[/url] . They're
    > > > currently quoting 209 days from receipt
    > > of the application. You can track
    > > > the progress as they update
    > > every week. The good news is that they seem to
    > > > making a lot of
    > > headway since the new year started.
    > > >
    > > > I am an inland spousal
    > > applicant, so I'm not totally familiar with the
    > > > common-law part of
    > > the inland category, other than reading the guide. Best
    > > > wishes.
    > > It's a long wait, but it's worth it.
    > > >
    > > > Renee
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Inland
    > > Spouse Timeline so far (U.S. Citizen):
    > > > 19 Feb 2003: Moved to
    > > Calgary from U.S. on 6 month TRV
    > > > 12 May 2003: Did medicals in
    > > Calgary
    > > > 20 June 2003: Applied for TRV extension
    > > > 5 July 2003:
    > > Wedding Date
    > > > 17 July 2003: CIC received inland spouse PR
    > > application
    > > > 15 Aug 2003: Received 6 month TRV extension
    > > > 20 Aug
    > > 2003: CIC request for work history dates (which were sent with
    > > >
    > > application)
    > > > 21 Aug 2003: CIC received work history reply by
    > > overnight post
    > > > 4 Sept 2003: CIC e-Client finally shows "in
    > > process"
    > > > 21 Nov 2003: Applied for second TRV extension
    > > > 16 Jan
    > > 2004: Received second 6 month TRV extension
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "kittykat"
    > > <member15263@british_expats.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:1201-
    > > 807.1075165892@britishexpats.com"]news:1201807.1075165892@britishex-
    > > pats.com[/url]...
    > > > > My common-law partner is a US citizen and
    > > we submitted his In-Land
    > > > > application in October 2003.
    > > Does he need to obtain a temporary
    > > > > visitor's visa? As
    > > for my understanding, US citizens do not require
    > > > > travel
    > > documents to enter and return to Canada and they can be legally
    > >
    > > > > in Canada for up to six months. In my partner's case, he
    > > stays in Canada
    > > > > for 5 months, heads back to NY for 2
    > > months and the cycle continues. Is
    > > > > this visa necessary
    > > for his case then?
    > > > > He was in the States during the
    > >
    > > > > holidays and came back 2 weeks ago. He is planning on
    > > applying for a
    > > > > temporary visiotr's visa in March 2004
    > > and hopefully by May CIC would
    > > > > start processing his
    > > application.
    > > > > I need your advice. If he obtains
    > > >
    > > > his visa now, then it could expire even before CIC looks into
    > > his
    > > > > application. Should we wait for few more
    > > months?
    > > > > Your help is
    > > > > appreciated!
    > > >
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