Nick2007

I am uk citizen marrying a us citizen who at present is studying for a
degree so therefore not earning. Today I went for the final processing
stage at the embassy only to find that I have insufficient funds!
Apparently ���£25.000 is the amount needed in the bank. To be granted my
visa (suspended at the moment) I have to complete a 1-134 could anybody
please tell me would my parents be able to sponsor me,or would this
complicate matters. I would appreciate any help on this.

P.S. This is only the second time I have used this site the information
is brilliant

Thanks Nick

Meauxna

> I am UK citizen marrying a US citizen who at present is studying for a
> degree so therefore not earning. Today I went for the final processing
> stage at the embassy only to find that I have insufficient funds!
> Apparently $51,000 is the amount needed in my bank. To be granted my
> visa (suspended at the moment) I have to complete a I-134 could
> anybody please tell me would my parents be able to sponsor me? or
> would this complicate matters. I would appreciate any help on this.
> Providing there are no problems with my parents sponsoring me, could
> you inform me if the US Embassy in London is the only place in England
> where I can get the I-134 signed/notarised?
>
> P.S. This is only the second time I have used this site the
> information is brilliant
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick

Nick, curious as to what was your plan regarding finances *before* you
walked in there this morning?
Explain more about the $51K and how that figure came up.
Explain what you *did* present for financial support docs and what was
the comment on them.
Don't know that an I-134 from a non-US parent would be accepted. I've
certainly never heard of it (doesn't mean jack all tho)
It's not the only place, but probably the best place.

PS GI/GO

Nick2007

> Nick, curious as to what was your plan regarding finances *before* you
> walked in there this morning?
> Explain more about the $51K and how that figure came up.
> Explain what you *did* present for financial support docs and what was
> the comment on them.
> Don't know that an I-134 from a non-US parent would be accepted. I've
> certainly never heard of it (doesn't mean jack all tho)
> It's not the only place, but probably the best place.
>
> PS GI/GO

Hi Meauxna thanks for the reply,

I had planned to support myself using my own funds. I have roughly
$15,000 cash in my bank which I was advised would be more than enough
from speaking to the advisors on the 1.00 pound per minute support line.

During my interview I was informed that the amount was not enough and
that I was required to have at least 3 x $17,000, $17,000 is apparently
the poverty line and I was required to have 3 times this to be able to
support myself.

Prior to my interview I had obtained a letter from a senior officer of a
bank showing my present balance, date account was opened, the number and
amount of deposits during the past 12 months and the average balance
during the year. I had all of these present at the interview, stamped
and signed.

My Fiancee has asked her Uncle to sponsor me but I am not too happy at
putting him in this position, as obviously the information he has to
provide is rather personal and I don't want to make him feel pressured
into doing so. To be honest if possible I would rather my parents
sponsor me. If it is possible any idea on how long it would take for me
to arrange an interview with a immigration officer to certify my I-134?
Also you mentioned that the US Embassy was not the only place I could
get the I-134 certified, can you tell me where else I could get it
certified?

Many thanks for the help,

Nick

Meauxna

> Hi Meauxna thanks for the reply,
>
> I had planned to support myself using my own funds. I have roughly
> $15,000 cash in my bank which I was advised would be more than
> enough from speaking to the advisors on the 1.00 pound per minute
> support line.
>
> During my interview I was informed that the amount was not enough and
> that I was required to have at least 3 x $17,000, $17,000 is
> apparently the poverty line and I was required to have 3 times this to
> be able to support myself. On reading through the I-134 I noticed that
> the sponsor supports you for a 3 year period, so i'm guessing that's
> why the visa interviewer came to the figure of $51,000 (3 years @
> $17,000 per year).
>
> Prior to my interview I had obtained a letter from a senior officer of
> a bank showing my present balance, date account was opened, the number
> and amount of deposits during the past 12 months and the average
> balance during the year. I had all of these present at the interview,
> stamped and signed.
>
> My Fiancee has asked her Uncle to sponsor me but I am not too happy at
> putting him in this position, as obviously the information he has to
> provide is rather personal and I don't want to make him feel pressured
> into doing so. To be honest if possible I would rather my parents
> sponsor me. If it is possible any idea on how long it would take for
> me to arrange an interview with a immigration officer to certify my
> I-134? Also you mentioned that the US Embassy was not the only place I
> could get the I-134 certified, can you tell me where else I could get
> it certified?
>
> Many thanks for the help,
>
> Nick

Nick, my personal experience is with a different affidavit. For the I-
864, the sponsor must be a US citizen or permanent resident, that's why
I question whether or not your parents can put up the money.

It's a very unusual way this went down.. You may want to reconsider the
uncle, and remember that his sponsorshipis very temporary. If you get
married as promised, and file to Adjust your status, you'll be
completing I-864 in just a few months after arrival.

The amount you took IS what has been acceptable for many others in your
postition. It sounds like you got someone new to the London office.

As for the notarizing, you need a US Notary Public. Not every notary in
the UK is one of these--they are pretty rare. If you were planning on
going back to the Embassy in person, you could have it done there. I
don't know if they can even accept an I-134 from a non-resident.. (I'm
thinking tho of all the other ways that form is used.. )

I guess I don't have anything else to add but questions! Lay back a
bit and see what else you can learn on your own, or what others may
have to contribute.
What did the officer suggest? Did you ask him about any of these
other scenarios? Has your petitioner called the Embassy to talk to
the officer?

Rete

> Hi Meauxna thanks for the reply,
>
> I had planned to support myself using my own funds. I have roughly
> $15,000 cash in my bank which I was advised would be more than
> enough from speaking to the advisors on the 1.00 pound per minute
> support line.
>
> During my interview I was informed that the amount was not enough and
> that I was required to have at least 3 x $17,000, $17,000 is
> apparently the poverty line and I was required to have 3 times this to
> be able to support myself. On reading through the I-134 I noticed that
> the sponsor supports you for a 3 year period, so i'm guessing that's
> why the visa interviewer came to the figure of $51,000 (3 years @
> $17,000 per year).
>
> Prior to my interview I had obtained a letter from a senior officer of
> a bank showing my present balance, date account was opened, the number
> and amount of deposits during the past 12 months and the average
> balance during the year. I had all of these present at the interview,
> stamped and signed.
>
> My Fiancee has asked her Uncle to sponsor me but I am not too happy at
> putting him in this position, as obviously the information he has to
> provide is rather personal and I don't want to make him feel pressured
> into doing so. To be honest if possible I would rather my parents
> sponsor me. If it is possible any idea on how long it would take for
> me to arrange an interview with a immigration officer to certify my
> I-134? Also you mentioned that the US Embassy was not the only place I
> could get the I-134 certified, can you tell me where else I could get
> it certified?
>
> Many thanks for the help,
>
> Nick

Nick

It is my understanding that even if your fiancee cannot be the financial
sponsor she still has to complete and submit an I-134 for you. You then
will require a co/joint sponsor who has a yearly income the equivalent
of the povertry guidelines plus 25% (125% total of the poverty
guidelines) for the number of people in his household plus you. So say
it is his wife and himself and you that is 3 people.

Your unwillingness to put him in this situation is honorable of you but
you need to know that the I-134 is just a formality and is not
enforceable. You will need him to complete an I-864 affidavit of support
for you when your K-1 is approved, you come to the US, marry and file
for AOS. Your money, even if you had enough, would not be allowed at
that point. More on that later.

For now, if Uncle is willing he can complete the I-134 in the US,
include his tax returns to show as proof of income eligibility, proof of
his US citizenship, i.e. birth certificate or if a Permanent Resident,
green card, and have it notarized in the US. He can send it to you in a
sealed envelope and the examiner at the US Consulate can open it and you
will never have to see it yourself.

After marriage:

The I-864 is enforceable. It is enforceable until one of several
things happen:

1. You given up your residency; voluntarily or it is taken from you; or

2. You have worked 40 quarters under the Social Security guidelines (10
years); or

2. You die; or

3. He dies and his estate is settled; or

4. You become a US Citizen.

An I-864 is a requirement for the adjustment of status for the green
card. You cannot do without it.

HOWEVER, if after your marriage, you obtain your employment
authorization document and get a job, you can at the time of the
interview SUBSTITUTE a new I-864 done by yourself and your wife with
your own income and remove the Uncle's. Thus, the Uncle's I-864 is only
used for the acceptance of the petition for filing and yours will be
used as acceptance for the change in status.

Rete

> Nick
>
> It is my understanding that even if your fiancee cannot be the
> financial sponsor she still has to complete and submit an I-134 for
> you. You then will require a co/joint sponsor who has a yearly income
> the equivalent of the povertry guidelines plus 25% (125% total of the
> poverty guidelines) for the number of people in his household plus
> you. So say it is his wife and himself and you that is 3 people.
>
> Your unwillingness to put him in this situation is honorable of you
> but you need to know that the I-134 is just a formality and is not
> enforceable. You will need him to complete an I-864 affidavit of
> support for you when your K-1 is approved, you come to the US, marry
> and file for AOS. Your money, even if you had enough, would not be
> allowed at that point. More on that later.
>
> For now, if Uncle is willing he can complete the I-134 in the US,
> include his tax returns to show as proof of income eligibility, proof
> of his US citizenship, i.e. birth certificate or if a Permanent
> Resident, green card, and have it notarized in the US. He can send it
> to you in a sealed envelope and the examiner at the US Consulate can
> open it and you will never have to see it yourself.
>
> After marriage:
>
> The I-864 is enforceable. It is enforceable until one of several
> things happen:
>
> 1. You given up your residency; voluntarily or it is taken from
> you; or
>
> 2. You have worked 40 quarters under the Social Security guidelines
> (10 years); or
>
> 3. You die; or
>
> 4. He dies and his estate is settled; or
>
> 5. You become a US Citizen.
>
> An I-864 is a requirement for the adjustment of status for the green
> card. You cannot do without it.
>
> HOWEVER, if after your marriage, you obtain your employment
> authorization document and get a job, you can at the time of the
> interview SUBSTITUTE a new I-864 done by yourself and your wife with
> your own income and remove the Uncle's. Thus, the Uncle's I-864 is
> only used for the acceptance of the petition for filing and yours will
> be used as acceptance for the change in status.

PS the Affidavits can only come from another USC and/or from a US
Permanent Resident (both of which must be currently living in the
US).

Nick2007

> PS the Affidavits can only come from another USC and/or from a US
> Permanent Resident (both of which must be currently living in
> the US).

Thanks again Meauxna! and thanks very much for your responses Rete

I'm going to speak with my fiancee about it shortly (it's only 7:30am
over there so i'll give her 30 more mins in bed lol ). I'll keep you
both posted anyway!

Nick2007

> Thanks again Meauxna! and thanks very much for your responses Rete
>
> I'm going to speak with my fiancee about it shortly (it's only 7:30am
> over there so i'll give her 30 more mins in bed lol ). I'll keep you
> both posted anyway!

Hello again,

My girlfriend's father has kindly offered to sponsor me for the I-134
and I-864. However before he goes ahead and completes the form we just
have a little query. In section 11 of the I-134 it is asking the
following:

"That I intend / do not intend to make specific contributions to the
support of the person(s) named in item 3.

(If you check "intend," indicate the exact nature and duration of the
contributions. For example, if you intend to furnishroom and board,
state for how long and, if money, state the amount in U.S. dollars and
state whether it is to be given in a lumpsum, weekly or monthly, or for
how long.)

In answering "do not intend" to the above will it have a negative effect
or does it not matter? As obviously I do not require any finanicial
support due to having my own funds and will be working as soon as I
receive the EAD.

Thanks in advance,

Nick

Noorah101

> Hello again,
>
> My girlfriend's father has kindly offered to sponsor me for the I-134
> and I-864. However before he goes ahead and completes the form we just
> have a little query. In section 11 of the I-134 it is asking the
> following:
>
> "That I intend / do not intend to make specific contributions to the
> support of the person(s) named in item 3.
>
> (If you check "intend," indicate the exact nature and duration of the
> contributions. For example, if you intend to furnishroom and board,
> state for how long and, if money, state the amount in U.S. dollars and
> state whether it is to be given in a lumpsum, weekly or monthly, or
> for how long.)
>
> In answering "do not intend" to the above will it have a negative
> effect or does it not matter? As obviously I do not require any
> finanicial support due to having my own funds and will be working as
> soon as I receive the EAD.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Nick

Checking "do not intend" will not have a negative effect. I'm the USC
fiancee who completed the I-134 for my overseas fiance, and I checked
"do not intend"....everything was fine.

Just remember, your fiancee still needs to complete an I-134 (and I-
864 when the time comes). Her father is a joint sponsor, and
completes a separate I-134 (and I-864) according to his own household
size, plus you.

Rene

Nick2007

> Checking "do not intend" will not have a negative effect. I'm the USC
> fiancee who completed the I-134 for my overseas fiance, and I checked
> "do not intend"....everything was fine.
>
> Just remember, your fiancee still needs to complete an I-134 (and I-
> 864 when the time comes). Her father is a joint sponsor, and
> completes a separate I-134 (and I-864) according to his own household
> size, plus you.
>
> Rene

Thanks again